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this hope radio for the masses headline

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of the food arrived i might clean for a

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and there's now in the possession of the

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RA the game is rigged change the game

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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church on the game-changer Radio Network

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I need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fade to black with

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jimmy touch on the game change in

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this spoke radio

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map says

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ninety nine days into the new year just

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266 days left we are lives

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live from a bunker somewhere in the

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middle of beautiful downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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and far and near this is fade to black

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what is cracking everybody how you do it

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yeah it's gonna go down tonight I'm fade

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tonight we have very special guests with

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us Adam curry

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Adam Curry he is here for the first time

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we'll talk about that at the bottom of

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the hour he's here for the first time

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discussing his research into the

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collective consciousness memory then the

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Mandela effect and stay tuned kids

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because tonight we are going to do an

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experiment with all of you we're gonna

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I didn't want to pollute things so I

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so get ready for that I'm I cannot wait

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to see what's gonna happen so we're

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gonna do that tonight it'll be a Mandela

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effect experiment tonight with all of

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everybody tomorrow night UFO researcher

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and author MJ Byrne is is going to be

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book it is called the UFO people and

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with open lines all night long that does

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our week here last night we have Billy

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Carson great week here on fade to black

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tweet out but everybody else here is uh

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the sandbox okay and that's where those

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Seymour Cassell one of my favorite

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actors period best known for his roles

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played the elevator guy and the product

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he died today he was 84 years old he had

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a great career great life funny guy

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great actor

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Seymour Cassell rust in peace okay and

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actress Lori Loughlin and 15 other

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wealthy parents now face an additional

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of money laundering as part of the

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growing college admissions scandal the

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parents who were charged last month with

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conspiracy to commit fraud were charged

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conspiring to launder bribes and other

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payments through a charity run by Rick

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singer the mastermind of the scam as

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well as by transferring money into the

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United States to promote the fraud

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laughlin yesterday did not plead guilty

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pleaded guilty yesterday but Lori

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Loughlin name and her husband Massimo

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gonna fight this yeah alright okay here

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you go I can't even believe this the

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Midwest and the plains around the United

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National Weather Service of a massive

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winter storm expected to run from

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Blizzard warnings to 36 million people

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headed into summer and I look insert at

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this point insert your own global

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worming joke here that's all I've got I

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that's what everybody wanted right be

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in the creepiest news category that's

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their success in developing human

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capital yes human capital he probably

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probably should have but anyway the

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bank's human capital index showed poor

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African countries fared the worst in the

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rankings with Chad and South Sudan

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number three and Hong Kong at number

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four the human capital index 1984 is

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here all right huge news is coming

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tomorrow all right are you ready for

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this tomorrow on April 10th scientists

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from the event horizon telescope

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collaboration will present for the first

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time the first image ever of a black

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hole in their attempt to capture an

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image of a black hole scientists combine

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the power of eight radio telescopes

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around the world using very long

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baseline are you ready

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interferometry and focus it on

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Sagittarius a which is 26,000 light

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prelude announcement to tomorrow's huge

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why I can't they shoot the black hole

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that's in the center of our Milky Way

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yeah you know I don't know okay so there

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you go it's going down tomorrow on April

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nothing like that all you do is download

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it start listening to music click on the

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it's right there surfer and if you want

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everything is right there now tonight

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Adam Curry is with us

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Adam Curry is going to be at contact in

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the desert this May 31st through June

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3rd in Indian Wells Palm Springs

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California and of course we will be

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there and it will be at the Renaissance

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calm we are doing three events that

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weekend three fade to black events of

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night with a studio audience like we do

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every year Saturday night I am hosting

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the awards dinner and you need to get

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separate tickets for that and I

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encourage all of you to go and do that

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because I want all fade or knots there

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in your fade to black t-shirts and that

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Saturday night

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and then Sunday night I'm hosting the

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closing panel that I do every year on

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Sunday night and then the closing

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ceremonies which will be right after

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that okay and then coming up it is our

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2019 Seoul tech conference it is over

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the July 4th weekend at the sunrise

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ranch in beautiful Loveland Colorado you

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we've got a beautiful website right

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there for you to check out you can click

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we teach it is a classroom environment

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care of everything so go and do it now

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weekend and rumor does have it that

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we're gonna have a cook-off that's right

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a cook-off Sagittarius a is the

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supermassive black hole at the center of

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our galaxy you will be pleased to know

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that is from corby ways so the center of

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our galaxy is only twenty thousand light

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year 26 thousand light years away is

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that right Corby is that right want to

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make sure here let's not spread the

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wrong information

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but bet but I'll give you credit if that

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is indeed right I thought that was much

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further away okay all right don't forget

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on the side I'm looking at these tweets

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and you guys are too smart see I I don't

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I don't understand you know I'm not a

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scientist I don't understand the stuff

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but apparently you guys are you guys are

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the smartest out there let's get this

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show cracking right now

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happy birthday to

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today My Chemical Romance frontman

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Gerard way today is 42 and I did that

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for my daughter's my daughter's growing

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up you know was weird because I remember

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the posters that I had in my bedroom I

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had a Black Sabbath poster I had a

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poster of Chicago I had a kiss poster

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that came out of like I forget what

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album maybe it was like a kiss double

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platinum or something had a poster name

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but anyway kiss army poster my daughters

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My Chemical Romance everywhere it was it

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was crazy and I got to actually like the

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band so there you go happy birthday

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today to Gerard Way 42 years old

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also today Dennis Quaid Dennis Quaid

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today is 65 years old on this day in

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history and it was a bigan is a mega

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1959 NASA introduces America's first

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astronauts to the press scott Carpenter

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Gordon Cooper John Glenn Gus Grissom

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Walter schirra Alan Shepard and Donnell

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deke Slayton on this day in 1959 here's

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your fader fact are you ready

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most toilet paper sold for home use in

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France is pink yep that I can't even

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touch that it's a fact all right tonight

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very special guest Adam Curry is here

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and he is here for the first time and we

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will be discussing all of his research

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into the collective consciousness and

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memory and what consciousness is and the

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Mandela effect and all of his exciting

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research that he has been doing over the

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years so that is tonight and later on in

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the show we will be performing an

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experiment with all

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of you so get ready for that and we'll

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get the results of the experiment

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tonight from you during the show Toronto

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UFO researcher and author MJ bond is is

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here and we're gonna talk about his new

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book the UFO people it is a fascinating

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read and I believe it releases tomorrow

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yeah might be tomorrow maybe Thursday

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tomorrow

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yeah the UFO people I you know I got the

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advance copy I've already read it it's a

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great read Thursday night is another

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Fator night with open lines all night

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long and this is the point of the show

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I am constantly thinking about what is

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consciousness

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what is it it's one of the most debated

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subjects period not only in our

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community but with science religion

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philosophy everybody's arguing everybody

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knows but nobody really knows the true

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answer right although it seems like

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we're getting close

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and and I have talked and talked and

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talked about when I when I address these

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very simple issues you know downloading

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our memories onto a chip you know

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immortality or maybe to travel the stars

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interstellar maybe move us into an

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Android body or robot

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you know whatever would you do it I ask

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these questions all the time and I'm

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wondering you know because I love the

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movie Tron watch the original movie Tron

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and that lays it out right there right

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but what about what makes you you how

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does that transfer you see here's the

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thing and here's the real deal

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we all have brains right allegedly you

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know which we do we all have brains and

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they all operate the same allegedly

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right they do and if that is the case

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where all of the neurons and all of

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those connections and the the you know

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the billions and billions of points and

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the trillions of things that are

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happening at any moment that essentially

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everything is operating the same way

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much like a computer by the way well if

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that is the case then why aren't we all

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just the same why are we robots right

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making all the same decisions liking all

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the same things man you know not even

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liking right what makes us different we

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can't figure that part out that possibly

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everything that we do you know over

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periods of time and I'm talking about

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seconds nanoseconds that everything that

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we do that it's so complex that that

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complexity is what makes us different

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that's one idea and it yeah it kind of

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makes sense but I don't even go down

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that road because that's a mechanical

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road we see we hear we taste and feel

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things differently

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I don't feel them all the same and it's

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really a simple concept

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I like black pants you like blue I don't

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know what the different we see the same

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colors but we see those colors

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differently what would appeals to you

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you know why do why do I hate

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Brussels sprouts and now I'll watch

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people shovel Brussels just like oh

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that's the mostest I can't even stand

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the smell right but that's what makes us

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all different it's a fundamental thing

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and when I'm when I crack the joke you

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know God invented vanilla and chocolate

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ice cream so we could all make choices

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right well think about the the that

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statement God invented you see one side

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of science actually thinks that all of

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nature is mechanical to mechanical right

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it's it's ones and zeros it's math it

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just happens literally nature runs like

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a machine that nature is a machine that

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nature is mechanical which includes us

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and this is where the debate gets nasty

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it does because it doesn't make any

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sense does it

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and in that consciousness part that

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makes us us if it's not really part of

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what is electrical and what is

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mechanical which I just don't think that

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it is I don't but I don't have all the

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answers right then what happens to that

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consciousness where does it go well

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again that's another debate and it gets

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it gets bigger and more complicated as

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we start to look at it and try to answer

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these questions and ask more questions

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so it comes down to some fundamental

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things here what will it take to get the

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answer what will it take what would it

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take to get everyone to agree as to what

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consciousness really is you know and I'm

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not so sure I know it does remind me it

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would be something like this dramatic it

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reminds me of the end of the movie

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Spielberg AI Minds me of the movie AI

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Osment his character David is on a quest

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for a Blue Mermaid I think it's a Blue

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Mermaid

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I could be destroying the movie right

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now but I think it's a Blue Mermaid

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right and that's that's this quest in

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the movie and in the end of the movie

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Kim and I can't remember the Android

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that's with them you know they get in

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that little ship and they they get under

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the ocean they go down they cruise up

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David finds the mermaid remember and

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he's looking and that's it and then he's

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just

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and then his battery power runs out

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hundreds of years go by and then they do

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a cutscene and in the cutscene you see

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this craft going across now you see New

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York and New York is under ice right and

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on this craft and it's a cube and it's

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one of the coolest craft that I've ever

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seen conceptualized pretty original

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turns out that that's et all right see

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teen piling in the craft and they go

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down you know and they're they're

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cutting through the ice and somehow they

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find David and David is frozen and he's

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there staring at the mermaid and David

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is like the last evidence that they have

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of what humans are or were so they

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revived David they revive his memory

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remember that but okay so that's not the

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point the point is who et was this

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evolved being right and they were light

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beings they turned out to be light fully

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conscious right where this body now is

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not what we would think you know a body

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something that you can touch they are

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light beings with consciousness think

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about that for a sec

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and when we get those answers when the

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answers come you know us how we will

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evolve in 10,000 years are we gonna be

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in these bodies of ours I don't know

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probably not but what about this our

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consciousness that's gonna make those

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light-being bodies of ours a million

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years in the future different that like

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different things think about that and

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that's what this show was about tonight

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it is going to be an amazing

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conversation

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Adam Curry and his team has been

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studying this and working forward to

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what not only consciousness is but

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collective consciousness and collective

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memories and how we affect each other

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that's the show tonight get ready it's

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gonna be an amazing conversation I've

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been looking forward to this for five

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years tonight Adam curry is here I am

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your host Jimmy church this is fade to

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black you can follow me on twitter at

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JDO you can follow Adam curry at Adam M

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curry on Twitter we've got it up right

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there and I'll be right back with

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tonight's guest Adam curry right after

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all right welcome back fade to black I

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I cannot wait for this show to get

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started tomorrow night's MJ band is is

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book and the UFO people Thursday is

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another fader night open lines all night

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long tonight

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it's Adam Curry Adam is an inventor he's

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a tech entrepreneur in Silicon Valley

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his background is in traditional

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hardware and software startups and in

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the scientific study of consciousness

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having spent over ten years in its

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research community at places like

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Princeton University's pear lab and the

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Institute of noetic Sciences he got a

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start in tech at the age of 17 when MIT

636
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named an asteroid after him for

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inventing a new seismology device based

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on electrogravitics his work has been

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featured on through the wormhole vice

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and elsewhere currently he is co-founder

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and manager of several companies based

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on new paradigm science including

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entangled which is a mobile app that

644
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explores global consciousness is the

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Mandela effect simply widespread false

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memory syndrome or could physical

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reality be shifting behind the scenes

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well tonight Adam is going to discuss

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some of the best examples of that effect

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covering a variety proposed explanations

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and we're gonna talk about some of his

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adventures attempting to create mini

653
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Mandela effects you never know what

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might happen on the show tonight right

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so get ready we're gonna do all of this

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tonight and I would like to welcome for

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the first time to fade to black

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Adam curry Adam good evening man how are

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you good Jimmy thanks for having me you

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know what this is where first off I get

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to give you the first-time guests

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disclaimer so let's get that out of the

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way first okay which is it's just you

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and me sitting on my couch having a

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conversation as friends and where that

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conversation starts it starts where it

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ends it ends or gonna end his friends

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okay that's the disclaimer so you're

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ready to go

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sounds good okay this is what we're

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gonna start young man five years I've

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00:36:10,589 --> 00:36:07,839
been trying to get you on this show five

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years and I need you to back me up on

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that BS

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where every opportunity where you and I

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have hung out I have said Adam let's go

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it's go time and you said to me this is

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where I'm gonna throw you under the bus

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soon and Jimmy it's gonna be a couple of

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months but I'm just about ready and and

681
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I've been pursuing you forever and so

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you know what this show means to me

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tonight and it's been five long years

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and you need to back me up how long have

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I been chasing you down about five long

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no you're not and and this is the thing

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I've been following you you know we've

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been friends there's this whole time and

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acquaintances and we've got a lot of

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mutual friends between us and I've been

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trying to keep the pressure on

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because as I've been following your

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research I've been getting more and more

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excited but at the same time the world

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has been tripping out too at the same

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you know and I've been watching this

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happen knowing what you are working on

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and I just needed to get you on the show

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00:37:22,850 --> 00:37:21,360
the this audience needs to know what

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you're working on because it will help

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them try to figure out what what is

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happening right now because everybody's

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00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:32,190
tripping yeah well you know I have a bad

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bad habit of creating devices or ideas

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or something like that that's about ten

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00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:42,000
years too early to hit the wave of

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interest right but because I've been I

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think doing the consciousness and the

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mobile app stuff first for so long that

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now might actually be a situation which

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time is in my favor well certainly and

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you know what's really funny is the

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we'll be talking about the Mendel effect

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quite a bit tonight but that that

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happened all on its own

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certainly starting to validate your

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research to you couldn't get better

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promotion could you know I've been

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really surprised you know just I can go

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to think about maybe ten to five years

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00:38:24,970 --> 00:38:24,540
ago the the consciousness award was

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something

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you uttered quietly right and

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particularly in academic halls and now

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the exact opposite is true

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there's nothing short of a miniature

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revolution happening in certain academic

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all surrounding consciousness and

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certainly in the public in general it's

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really exciting yeah remember you

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telling me this was quite a while ago

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00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:47,390
and and you telling me about how your

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software and this thing that you were

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working on could prove or help to show

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that this is possible and this is real

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00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:00,050
and that was a good solid two years

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before the Mandela effect took hold but

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it was exactly what you were trying to

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suggest everybody what was going on

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right that's right the consciousness

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effects that I was looking at was

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probably related to something like how a

743
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Mandela effect could exist we'll get

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into the details of that a little bit

745
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:21,740
later sure and so here we are tonight

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00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:24,050
now we're going to be talking about some

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pretty complex subjects and and nothing

748
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:30,430
is more complex than than consciousness

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00:39:37,150 --> 00:39:35,599
you know mind collective memories and

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00:39:42,089 --> 00:39:37,160
collective consciousness these are very

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00:39:45,970 --> 00:39:42,099
complex philosophical and in scientific

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00:39:48,359 --> 00:39:45,980
I almost said debate actually it is

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actually that's exactly what it is and

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so when we start to move into this for

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you if this being part of your research

756
00:40:01,599 --> 00:39:58,609
nobody can really decide on a definition

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of consciousness or what it is or if it

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00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:04,819
exists but you have to start there so

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00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:08,000
for you what is your definition of

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consciousness it's a famously difficult

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definition to to provide but to me

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00:40:21,460 --> 00:40:19,010
consciousness means our minds it means

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the nature of our minds

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it means our thoughts and our intentions

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it's also the subjective side of our

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world our feelings our desires our

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responses our internal world our

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internality and you know the the

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question of what is consciousness would

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be answered

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currently depending on not just who you

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00:40:48,749 --> 00:40:44,180
ask but when you ask so in the ancient

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world figure up until about the 1700s

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consciousness or mind was regarded to be

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sort of inextricable from God or from

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some sort of divine intelligence and the

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cosmos and those things and the physical

778
00:41:05,230 --> 00:41:01,789
world went together in a slightly

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mysterious but in a way that was a good

780
00:41:15,999 --> 00:41:09,430
fit and then in about the 1700s

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00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:16,009
you had Descartes come out with his

782
00:41:22,259 --> 00:41:18,890
dualism right and what he was trying to

783
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:22,269
do is basically create a political

784
00:41:27,630 --> 00:41:24,890
basically broker a political they taught

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00:41:29,859 --> 00:41:27,640
between the church who regarded the mind

786
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,869
and the natural world as their own

787
00:41:34,569 --> 00:41:32,240
domain and burgeoning science who were

788
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:34,579
trying to explain things phenomena and

789
00:41:38,259 --> 00:41:36,049
some sort of consistent scientific

790
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:38,269
framework and rather than burn the

791
00:41:43,269 --> 00:41:41,089
scientists at the stake Descartes

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00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:43,279
basically suggested something like

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dualism and that is the idea that the

794
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:48,470
mind or consciousness was separate from

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00:41:57,099 --> 00:41:53,839
the physical world but that God sort of

796
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:57,109
breathed that consciousness into the

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00:42:02,740 --> 00:41:59,450
world in the first place and you really

798
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:02,750
had and his famous quote right therefore

799
00:42:10,029 --> 00:42:07,730
I am and this kind of about codified in

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Newton who created the the sort of

801
00:42:14,349 --> 00:42:11,900
Newtonian mechanics of the clockwork

802
00:42:17,470 --> 00:42:14,359
universe where the whole cosmos was seen

803
00:42:19,690 --> 00:42:17,480
as this sort of billiard ball clockwork

804
00:42:21,549 --> 00:42:19,700
universe and it was God's idea that sort

805
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:21,559
of setting into motion and that worked

806
00:42:26,740 --> 00:42:24,410
really well until about the end of the

807
00:42:29,289 --> 00:42:26,750
last centuries around 1900s and what

808
00:42:32,140 --> 00:42:29,299
happened then is you got materialism and

809
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:32,150
that's sort of the dominant paradigm so

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00:42:38,859 --> 00:42:34,569
if you were to ask what is consciousness

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today in materialism which by the way is

812
00:42:44,829 --> 00:42:42,349
the idea that there is no mind that

813
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:44,839
everything that exists can be explained

814
00:42:48,819 --> 00:42:46,730
solely in terms of the known properties

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00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:48,829
of matter so if you were to ask what is

816
00:42:51,849 --> 00:42:49,490
consciousness

817
00:42:52,270 --> 00:42:51,859
today the materialist perspective would

818
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,280
be the

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00:42:58,210 --> 00:42:54,800
there is no such thing the consciousness

820
00:43:00,250 --> 00:42:58,220
is an illusion right it's what is known

821
00:43:02,370 --> 00:43:00,260
as what would be known as an epoch

822
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:02,380
phenomena of the brain meaning it's a

823
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:07,330
secondary unimportant side-effect of

824
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:09,130
chemical and the electrical activity

825
00:43:13,870 --> 00:43:11,210
happening inside the organ we call the

826
00:43:16,540 --> 00:43:13,880
brain right and that has basically been

827
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:16,550
the answer that mainstream science would

828
00:43:21,970 --> 00:43:18,640
provide for the last hundred or so years

829
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:21,980
but that's changing it is changing and

830
00:43:29,170 --> 00:43:26,240
see this is Mitaka bout there are you

831
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:29,180
know some some egocentric or you know

832
00:43:35,620 --> 00:43:32,450
rock stars out there like like Dawkins

833
00:43:38,860 --> 00:43:35,630
who has got you know a huge following

834
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:38,870
that believes and everything that he

835
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:43,010
says it's almost cult-like like you know

836
00:43:48,070 --> 00:43:45,170
you know you know what I mean and and

837
00:43:49,930 --> 00:43:48,080
for him to suggest the mechanical aspect

838
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:49,940
to everything that's the answer to

839
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:51,770
everything and that there isn't anything

840
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:54,770
else to ponder here that all the answers

841
00:44:00,340 --> 00:43:58,490
are very simple and mechanical I think

842
00:44:03,370 --> 00:44:00,350
couldn't be farther from the truth he's

843
00:44:05,950 --> 00:44:03,380
the one guy Adam he's the one guy that I

844
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:05,960
would love to debate and I don't have

845
00:44:13,450 --> 00:44:10,640
the educational you know professional

846
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:13,460
things to back me up I'm not that smart

847
00:44:19,150 --> 00:44:16,130
but I would tear that guy apart because

848
00:44:22,420 --> 00:44:19,160
I think he is completely wrong right but

849
00:44:24,810 --> 00:44:22,430
there are so many that actually follow

850
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:24,820
that and I find that fascinating

851
00:44:30,850 --> 00:44:27,410
it is fascinating but you know it's

852
00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:30,860
falling apart and I think that the

853
00:44:35,110 --> 00:44:33,080
materialist perspective is falling apart

854
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:35,120
because it's encountered consciousness

855
00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:37,010
and it can't get around it and I'm

856
00:44:42,810 --> 00:44:40,070
starting to realize that I think it's

857
00:44:47,890 --> 00:44:42,820
falling apart in three different ways

858
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:47,900
the first way is in sort of the

859
00:44:51,580 --> 00:44:49,610
philosophy of mind world and that's what

860
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:51,590
philosophers have asked this question

861
00:44:56,410 --> 00:44:54,650
what is consciousness and they've

862
00:44:58,180 --> 00:44:56,420
examined the answer which is that

863
00:45:00,960 --> 00:44:58,190
consciousness is an illusion and they've

864
00:45:03,150 --> 00:45:00,970
seen that that is a logical fallacy

865
00:45:06,030 --> 00:45:03,160
right right right

866
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:06,040
in other words

867
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:11,450
something can't be an illusion if as if

868
00:45:15,550 --> 00:45:14,000
something isn't real then it's it's not

869
00:45:17,590 --> 00:45:15,560
an illusion so that the question becomes

870
00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:17,600
an illusion to whom right if

871
00:45:21,490 --> 00:45:19,190
consciousness is an illusion who's

872
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:21,500
experiencing the illusion so it

873
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:23,330
presupposes the existence of

874
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:24,770
consciousness to explain that

875
00:45:27,730 --> 00:45:25,850
consciousness doesn't exist

876
00:45:29,830 --> 00:45:27,740
well my course is ridiculous right right

877
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:29,840
right and and and if you look at it that

878
00:45:38,650 --> 00:45:33,710
way from from Dawkins point of view then

879
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:38,660
the his his his view is taken apart now

880
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:40,310
I like to listen to everybody and get

881
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:42,530
you know ideas from them and I certainly

882
00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:45,920
get ideas from Dawkins but the his his

883
00:45:53,170 --> 00:45:50,270
whole thing falls apart in that if if it

884
00:45:55,090 --> 00:45:53,180
was all just electricity and the neurons

885
00:45:57,099 --> 00:45:55,100
are firing off and all those connections

886
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:57,109
and our brains are just doing the same

887
00:46:03,330 --> 00:45:58,970
thing and everybody else is doing the

888
00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:03,340
same thing then we would all be the same

889
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:05,600
right and that's it there wouldn't be

890
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:09,410
any differences between us including him

891
00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:12,560
and his opinions that he has that make

892
00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:15,470
him him well then I would be like him

893
00:46:18,910 --> 00:46:17,480
and there wouldn't be anybody to argue

894
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:18,920
against his point

895
00:46:23,859 --> 00:46:21,710
therefore it invalidates everything that

896
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:23,869
he stands for but you can't get him to

897
00:46:29,470 --> 00:46:27,770
listen to that right am i making from

898
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:29,480
his point of view he isn't making a

899
00:46:33,730 --> 00:46:31,210
rational argument so much as he's

900
00:46:37,870 --> 00:46:33,740
experiencing the illusion of having what

901
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:37,880
he calls a rational argument based on

902
00:46:41,230 --> 00:46:39,410
deterministic factors that were set in

903
00:46:46,090 --> 00:46:41,240
motion you know long before he had a

904
00:46:48,070 --> 00:46:46,100
brain so I mean it falls apart and they

905
00:46:50,770 --> 00:46:48,080
kind of admit it these days anyway it

906
00:46:51,820 --> 00:46:50,780
even goes beyond that though you know

907
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:51,830
there was a lot of hope that

908
00:46:56,260 --> 00:46:54,050
neuroscience with its sophisticated

909
00:46:59,530 --> 00:46:56,270
imaging and fMRI techniques and so forth

910
00:47:01,060 --> 00:46:59,540
would identify quote-unquote where

911
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:01,070
consciousness comes from in the brain

912
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:03,410
but it's really only deepen the mystery

913
00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:04,970
because the more we look at the brain

914
00:47:09,130 --> 00:47:07,640
and the more closely we look though the

915
00:47:11,410 --> 00:47:09,140
more we realize that we can't really

916
00:47:12,820 --> 00:47:11,420
find where consciousness is like there's

917
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:12,830
parts of the brain that are associated

918
00:47:17,290 --> 00:47:14,330
with different functions and memories of

919
00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:17,300
course but the big mystery what's called

920
00:47:23,460 --> 00:47:19,190
the hard problem of consciousness

921
00:47:26,339 --> 00:47:23,470
is this why in the first place is

922
00:47:29,260 --> 00:47:26,349
subjectivity attendant to brain function

923
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:29,270
meaning you could just have a brain that

924
00:47:33,069 --> 00:47:30,970
does its chemical thing back and forth

925
00:47:36,819 --> 00:47:33,079
but couldn't it just do that without

926
00:47:38,980 --> 00:47:36,829
having this complex inner world called

927
00:47:43,210 --> 00:47:38,990
subjectivity why are there feelings and

928
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:43,220
thoughts and and values sadness

929
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:48,890
happiness two cells firing it completely

930
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:50,720
fails to explain the existence of an

931
00:47:56,589 --> 00:47:54,530
inner world to the material side of in

932
00:47:59,050 --> 00:47:56,599
this case our brains are our bodies well

933
00:48:02,349 --> 00:47:59,060
okay so then let's let's let's take this

934
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:02,359
one step further could consciousness and

935
00:48:05,260 --> 00:48:03,770
this is one of their arguments I would

936
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:05,270
like your opinion on this could

937
00:48:11,530 --> 00:48:08,240
consciousness just develop because of

938
00:48:14,740 --> 00:48:11,540
the complexity of the electricity that

939
00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:14,750
is going on that it is a side you know

940
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:19,310
project that is that is evolved from the

941
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:22,250
complexities of the brain when but

942
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:25,130
that's one point and then what about

943
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:29,569
plants right our plants conscious do

944
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:31,490
they have a consciousness without a

945
00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:35,359
brain right I'm glad you asked that

946
00:48:39,370 --> 00:48:36,430
question

947
00:48:44,050 --> 00:48:39,380
so so there's two parts of that so the

948
00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:44,060
first part could consciousness emerge as

949
00:48:49,210 --> 00:48:46,630
a result of increasingly complex

950
00:48:52,450 --> 00:48:49,220
physical structures and the answer could

951
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:52,460
be may be and there's a neuroscientist

952
00:48:58,030 --> 00:48:55,310
Giulio Tononi University of Wisconsin

953
00:49:00,970 --> 00:48:58,040
who believes that very thing in fact he

954
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:00,980
has set up experiments that actually

955
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:05,119
suggest that meaning that any from his

956
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:06,790
point of view any sufficiently

957
00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:08,930
informationally self integrated and

958
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:11,240
that's a hard one to explain but just

959
00:49:15,309 --> 00:49:13,730
imagine complexity system in the

960
00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:15,319
universe would have a degree of

961
00:49:20,260 --> 00:49:16,670
consciousness which he calls phi

962
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:20,270
attendant to it so the more physically

963
00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:22,310
or materially information we integrated

964
00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:25,640
in complex a thing the more you and his

965
00:49:30,130 --> 00:49:28,190
theory would have consciousness as a as

966
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:30,140
emergent but what's what's valuable

967
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:32,310
about his approach is that he sees that

968
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:35,280
all he sees all of the physical world as

969
00:49:39,260 --> 00:49:37,280
something like proto consciousness

970
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,270
meaning consciousness is like a

971
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,000
fundamental thing a fundamental

972
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:44,480
inextricable part of the physical world

973
00:49:51,290 --> 00:49:48,810
but it's that it's that complexity that

974
00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:51,300
gives rise from that proto consciousness

975
00:49:57,740 --> 00:49:53,700
to consciousness and that first-person

976
00:50:05,320 --> 00:49:57,750
perspective that make sense it does it

977
00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:05,330
does and okay so then if if if okay if

978
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:09,270
consciousness doesn't necessarily reside

979
00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:13,290
on something physical right it may be

980
00:50:20,060 --> 00:50:16,760
that you don't necessarily need a

981
00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:20,070
physical body where you know after you

982
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:23,700
die your consciousness survives and and

983
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:26,130
and it's out there and maybe attaches

984
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:28,170
itself to uh you know goes and finds

985
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:31,050
another host whatever or reincarnates

986
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:32,850
goes to another planet or another

987
00:50:37,820 --> 00:50:35,280
universe we don't know the answers to

988
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:37,830
these questions but if that is the case

989
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:43,110
then what what would it take to prove

990
00:50:49,130 --> 00:50:47,040
that consciousness exists to silence

991
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:49,140
those out there if it's something that

992
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:52,170
isn't measured right if it's indeed not

993
00:50:58,730 --> 00:50:55,530
physical well to prove something exists

994
00:51:01,610 --> 00:50:58,740
is one thing and it's difficult but to

995
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:01,620
silence critics is something else and

996
00:51:06,140 --> 00:51:04,770
that's almost impossible right I mean

997
00:51:08,450 --> 00:51:06,150
what would it take I mean that's that's

998
00:51:11,210 --> 00:51:08,460
it's like my ultimate question you know

999
00:51:17,410 --> 00:51:11,220
what would it take to get everybody to

1000
00:51:21,140 --> 00:51:17,420
agree what consciousness is yeah

1001
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:21,150
well regarding the the idea that

1002
00:51:28,060 --> 00:51:23,510
consciousness is non-physical there's

1003
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,070
about five decades of really robust

1004
00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:30,720
laboratory-grade parapsychology

1005
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:32,280
experiments that would suggest that

1006
00:51:36,980 --> 00:51:34,890
consciousness is something like a

1007
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:36,990
non-physical or informational system we

1008
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:38,250
make it can do things that aren't

1009
00:51:43,820 --> 00:51:39,930
physically explained by the standard

1010
00:51:45,110 --> 00:51:43,830
model physics right and there's all

1011
00:51:46,070 --> 00:51:45,120
different ways that you can slice that

1012
00:51:48,260 --> 00:51:46,080
research

1013
00:51:51,140 --> 00:51:48,270
the multiple meta-analysis of this are

1014
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,150
suggesting evidence greater than one in

1015
00:51:56,540 --> 00:51:53,280
several billion to one in several

1016
00:51:58,220 --> 00:51:56,550
trillion so from my point of view and

1017
00:51:59,660 --> 00:51:58,230
from every reasonable sort of point of

1018
00:52:02,740 --> 00:51:59,670
view scientifically the idea of

1019
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:02,750
non-physical consciousness is is quite

1020
00:52:09,050 --> 00:52:06,510
established you have in front of you

1021
00:52:10,820 --> 00:52:09,060
instead something like a social

1022
00:52:13,220 --> 00:52:10,830
challenge you need to get new

1023
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:13,230
information into consensus reality or to

1024
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:14,910
adjust the paradigm in some sort of way

1025
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:17,490
is a longer process that is not based in

1026
00:52:22,430 --> 00:52:19,740
evidence as much as we like to think it

1027
00:52:25,330 --> 00:52:22,440
is but is based on social factors and

1028
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:25,340
that wouldn't work for Dawkins though

1029
00:52:32,180 --> 00:52:29,250
well no no no that's the exact opposite

1030
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:32,190
of what what he basis you know his

1031
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:36,210
worldview on and and like I I truly

1032
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:38,970
believe that half of science is is on

1033
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:41,310
doc inside there on the mechanical side

1034
00:52:46,550 --> 00:52:44,310
and I understand why you know it's

1035
00:52:48,740 --> 00:52:46,560
laboratories improve and black and white

1036
00:52:52,210 --> 00:52:48,750
I get all of that then there's the other

1037
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:52,220
side of science today that is totally

1038
00:52:59,020 --> 00:52:55,610
accepting of you know a miracle based

1039
00:53:01,220 --> 00:52:59,030
something else is driving all of this

1040
00:53:03,620 --> 00:53:01,230
mindset and where they are trying to

1041
00:53:05,810 --> 00:53:03,630
figure out that side getting them to

1042
00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:05,820
meet in the middle I think is where we

1043
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:07,710
are at today I think it's pretty

1044
00:53:12,770 --> 00:53:10,110
exciting times I couldn't think of a

1045
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:12,780
better time to be here but in my opening

1046
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:16,530
statement tonight my comment was this in

1047
00:53:23,050 --> 00:53:20,250
order to get everybody to agree on both

1048
00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:23,060
sides it would take something like a

1049
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:27,380
crazy light being you know ET

1050
00:53:32,540 --> 00:53:29,520
extraterrestrials showing up in a

1051
00:53:34,450 --> 00:53:32,550
physical light body without you know

1052
00:53:38,450 --> 00:53:34,460
what I mean without the physical there

1053
00:53:41,660 --> 00:53:38,460
that can talk think laugh and love right

1054
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:41,670
and the the the example of consciousness

1055
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:44,850
not residing in a brain

1056
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:47,250
yeah it could be it could take something

1057
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:50,810
like that to sort of jolt us now the

1058
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:53,810
couple of examples I gave earlier where

1059
00:53:59,660 --> 00:53:56,930
our perspective on consciousness shifted

1060
00:54:01,550 --> 00:53:59,670
based on when you're talking right so

1061
00:54:03,290 --> 00:54:01,560
from the Animus one day or the magical

1062
00:54:06,260 --> 00:54:03,300
world into the classical world and the

1063
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:06,270
tawny mechanics and into the materialism

1064
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:10,170
of the current period and in looking

1065
00:54:14,330 --> 00:54:12,330
forward into some sort of future that is

1066
00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:14,340
a consciousness first perspective

1067
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:15,960
whatever that is I think that is the

1068
00:54:20,690 --> 00:54:18,480
definition of paradigm change and it

1069
00:54:23,570 --> 00:54:20,700
that is evidence that it does happen but

1070
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:23,580
it's a long term process right and I

1071
00:54:28,850 --> 00:54:26,250
thinks it you can look at the inflection

1072
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:28,860
points of each of those paradigm shifts

1073
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:31,290
and you can see what happens is that

1074
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:33,930
there are anomalies that start to creep

1075
00:54:39,230 --> 00:54:37,050
into awareness among the people that

1076
00:54:42,170 --> 00:54:39,240
establish the paradigm if you will and

1077
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:42,180
at first those anomalies are ignored and

1078
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:45,690
then those anomalies are attacked and

1079
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:47,510
then what happens is very interesting is

1080
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:53,280
the people that can benefit from usually

1081
00:54:57,140 --> 00:54:54,720
the people that attack those anomalies

1082
00:54:59,840 --> 00:54:57,150
will then say ah these are nominees are

1083
00:55:01,370 --> 00:54:59,850
real and I thought of it first so you

1084
00:55:02,660 --> 00:55:01,380
kind of have to get a lot of the

1085
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:02,670
mainstream scientists or the

1086
00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:07,380
stakeholders in basically align the

1087
00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:09,240
incentives and I think that we haven't

1088
00:55:14,090 --> 00:55:11,990
quite figured out how to do that yet and

1089
00:55:16,490 --> 00:55:14,100
we're gonna we're gonna take a break

1090
00:55:19,460 --> 00:55:16,500
here in two minutes and I want to set

1091
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:19,470
this up for when we come back for you as

1092
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you're going through your life and an

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education and and you started to begin

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this hero's journey that you're on what

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what happened something made you take a

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left-hand turn somewhere to go down the

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00:55:40,550 --> 00:55:38,120
consciousness road what was that event I

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think that it's because I have crazy

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00:55:45,050 --> 00:55:43,080
hair yeah you do have crazy hair yeah

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and you know you can't really be an

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inventor or have mad scientist

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tendencies without having crazy hair

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00:55:52,510 --> 00:55:51,090
okay so what what what what caused the

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crazy hair

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I'll get the answer out of you crazy

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hair first or did this stuff cause the

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crazy right

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00:56:02,620 --> 00:56:00,500
exactly you know I'm not really any

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00:56:04,780 --> 00:56:02,630
longer interested in trying to approve

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00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:04,790
the stuff to anyone I'm certainly not

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00:56:08,650 --> 00:56:06,650
going to impact mainstream science in

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00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:08,660
any traditional way I'm more interested

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00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:11,510
in figuring out how things work building

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00:56:15,460 --> 00:56:14,000
cool stuff and being playful and that's

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00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:15,470
more of a reflection of my personality

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00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:17,570
and how I've come to kind of approach

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00:56:24,670 --> 00:56:20,480
these anomalous subject matters as they

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become an adult but yeah I mean the the

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origin of my interest in these things

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are kind of interesting maybe we can get

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into that a little bit in the next

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00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:32,030
segment well I mean was it did you have

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some kind of crazy mind experiment did

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you have a talent could you read you

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know could you predict the future or was

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00:56:44,530 --> 00:56:42,980
it dreams did you have goes did your

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00:56:46,810 --> 00:56:44,540
grandmother come to you in your bedroom

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I mean you know there's always some kind

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of Epiphany

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well I grew up in Colorado Springs for

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00:56:57,970 --> 00:56:54,440
about 10 years and that's where Tesla

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00:57:00,220 --> 00:56:57,980
had his lab and the remnants of his

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00:57:03,010 --> 00:57:00,230
laboratory the stuff that remained a bit

1134
00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:03,020
was put into a small museum and when I

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00:57:06,190 --> 00:57:04,609
was a kid I was always asking my mom to

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bring home electronics I would take it

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00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:07,880
apart and build things and one day she

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00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:11,450
took me to the Tesla Museum and there

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00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:13,130
was there's no one there because no one

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00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:15,710
knew who he was back then and there was

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00:57:20,349 --> 00:57:17,810
a gentleman who let me play with some of

1142
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:20,359
the newer Tesla coils and these types of

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00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:22,490
things and I was captivated and so I

1144
00:57:26,260 --> 00:57:24,290
started reading about Tesla and his

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00:57:28,450 --> 00:57:26,270
inventions and the same people that

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00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:28,460
write those books about Tesla basically

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00:57:33,310 --> 00:57:30,650
also included in it this idea that there

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00:57:35,830 --> 00:57:33,320
was he was on to a new physics that

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00:57:37,930 --> 00:57:35,840
there's textbook science which is one

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00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:37,940
thing and it's it's fine and there the

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00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:42,050
Mo's parallel track of thinking and it

1152
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:43,760
was that parallel track of thinking that

1153
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:47,570
really inspired me and I really grew up

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00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:49,010
with the idea that there are like kind

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of two explanations for things or the

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00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:52,609
mainstream is is really like an

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incomplete picture of how reality works

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00:58:02,170 --> 00:57:58,970
and that you almost have to have that

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00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,180
point of view to to understand and

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00:58:06,099 --> 00:58:04,400
appreciate consciousness research very

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00:58:08,170 --> 00:58:06,109
because it doesn't fit in the box yeah

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00:58:11,650 --> 00:58:08,180
there you go so it was Tesla see there's

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only something you know for me

1164
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:14,180
it's a very simple thing my mom was nuts

1165
00:58:20,380 --> 00:58:16,910
and she had a collection of Edgar Cayce

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00:58:23,019 --> 00:58:20,390
books that when I was five six seven

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00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:23,029
years old I could barely read and I

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00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:25,130
thought to myself who's this Edgar Cayce

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00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:27,680
guy my mom's got a hundred books here

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00:58:34,479 --> 00:58:30,049
well you know what that's that's that's

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00:58:35,890 --> 00:58:34,489
what what got me on the air tonight with

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00:58:38,170 --> 00:58:35,900
you but you know there's always

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00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:38,180
something like that in all of our lives

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00:58:43,569 --> 00:58:41,450
our guest tonight is Adam curry I am

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00:58:46,210 --> 00:58:43,579
your host Jimmy church tonight we are

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00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:46,220
discussing consciousness collective

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00:58:50,979 --> 00:58:48,079
consciousness collective mind the

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00:58:52,989 --> 00:58:50,989
Mandela effect his research and we're

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gonna do an experiment with all of you

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in just a bit so get ready for that this

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is fade to black I'm here Jimmy Church

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we'll be right back more of Adam after

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this short break stay with us

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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use to the church follow me on twitter @

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I believe that's what it is Adam am i

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right Adam M Curry on Twitter on Twitter

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it's Adams lab Adams lab I just blew it

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it's right in front of me - Adam slab

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that okay one quick question before we

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really start to move forward here if you

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could download or upload your brain onto

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a chip and and then kill yourself would

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you do it if if I could go with it

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write me my it'd my consciousness if

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that that's the question right I

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understand downloading or uploading

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memories right I could write that makes

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sense to me

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write a neural interface everybody's

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working on it okay I get that part but

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what about what makes you you at it you

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know that's the thing I don't know you

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know they'd have to convince me and that

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is a central mystery of consciousness is

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that there is something like what it

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feels like to be Jimmy and you have to

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be prepared to give that up that's right

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you're going to upload your your brain

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somehow into your yeah and you go back I

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love the original movie Tron the concept

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of that and and living on a chip and

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just hanging out like that and and and

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you know

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that's tough right you just you just

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exist but but there it's a fundamental

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thing that's missing in that is how did

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how did the

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the thing that's that's it's never

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really addressed how do you transfer

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that and if they convinced me of that

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I think it's go time I think I would do

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it yeah you could just Jack directly

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into your mic set up there yeah yeah

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seriously you know and and just think

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about that now what you know the the the

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the fundamental philosophical questions

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enter in like immortality but just

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imagine being able to learn or ever

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won the lottery tomorrow I would go to

1358
01:07:40,990 --> 01:07:37,029
school I would go to school till I died

1359
01:07:44,500 --> 01:07:41,000
I would go to school I would just sit

1360
01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:44,510
and learn every single day that's what I

1361
01:07:49,150 --> 01:07:46,670
would do I build my own University

1362
01:07:51,460 --> 01:07:49,160
that's what I would do you know I

1363
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:51,470
wouldn't do what everybody else thinks

1364
01:07:55,539 --> 01:07:53,359
that they would do with that money I

1365
01:07:59,559 --> 01:07:55,549
would go and learn and that that's

1366
01:08:02,920 --> 01:07:59,569
that's the part of being immortal right

1367
01:08:06,430 --> 01:08:02,930
just acquiring knowledge forever oh man

1368
01:08:11,260 --> 01:08:06,440
holy mackerel yeah okay so now let's get

1369
01:08:13,569 --> 01:08:11,270
to the Mandela effect and and and what

1370
01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:13,579
it is

1371
01:08:19,599 --> 01:08:16,400
there is the pop culture version of it

1372
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:19,609
and then there's the the other things

1373
01:08:24,610 --> 01:08:22,850
that could be causing it right what what

1374
01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:24,620
could it be is it interference from a

1375
01:08:29,470 --> 01:08:27,230
parallel world and or whatever or you

1376
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:29,480
know time travelers coming back and

1377
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:32,000
altering things I don't know but for you

1378
01:08:37,450 --> 01:08:35,690
what is the Mandela effect do you know

1379
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:37,460
that there's a technical term for the

1380
01:08:40,899 --> 01:08:40,130
Mandela effect now there probably is

1381
01:08:46,749 --> 01:08:40,909
what is it

1382
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:46,759
it's alter ooh alter really mm-hmm okay

1383
01:08:55,450 --> 01:08:51,770
the the Superman bizarro world version

1384
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:55,460
of DejaVu that's right do you do you

1385
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:57,330
know do you know about the four views

1386
01:09:02,180 --> 01:08:59,520
no lay it on okay okay this this will be

1387
01:09:03,710 --> 01:09:02,190
a freebie it's pretty cool so deja vu

1388
01:09:06,350 --> 01:09:03,720
we're all familiar weather right that's

1389
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:06,360
where the the unfamiliar is strangely

1390
01:09:11,180 --> 01:09:09,120
familiar so you walk into a strange

1391
01:09:14,420 --> 01:09:11,190
house and you feel like you recognize

1392
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:14,430
the rooms that stay jabu jabu is the

1393
01:09:19,010 --> 01:09:16,410
opposite of deja vu and that's where the

1394
01:09:20,210 --> 01:09:19,020
familiar seems unfamiliar so that would

1395
01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:20,220
be for example where you go into your

1396
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:21,000
own house

1397
01:09:27,740 --> 01:09:24,960
and the rooms you don't recognize plus

1398
01:09:29,330 --> 01:09:27,750
kazoo is that feeling when you're trying

1399
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:29,340
to remember something and it's on the

1400
01:09:32,510 --> 01:09:31,440
tip of your tongue but it's not coming

1401
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:32,520
to you but you feel like you know what

1402
01:09:36,820 --> 01:09:33,170
it is

1403
01:09:40,130 --> 01:09:36,830
that's puska boo and then alter vu is

1404
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:40,140
when you remember reality differently

1405
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:42,570
than it appears to be so you have a

1406
01:09:48,170 --> 01:09:45,210
memory of something that in fact is not

1407
01:09:52,490 --> 01:09:48,180
true and that is a technical term for

1408
01:09:56,510 --> 01:09:52,500
the Mandela effect no okay so that's uh

1409
01:09:58,610 --> 01:09:56,520
do you agree with alter view well

1410
01:10:01,010 --> 01:09:58,620
there's no question that the phenomenon

1411
01:10:05,390 --> 01:10:01,020
of people remembering something that is

1412
01:10:08,170 --> 01:10:05,400
not true is real right I mean I'm guilty

1413
01:10:12,050 --> 01:10:08,180
of that all the time the Mandela effect

1414
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:12,060
itself has been around at least it was

1415
01:10:19,220 --> 01:10:15,570
codified in about 2009 by a woman named

1416
01:10:21,950 --> 01:10:19,230
Fiona Broome and it pertained to the

1417
01:10:25,190 --> 01:10:21,960
fact that a number of people remember

1418
01:10:30,910 --> 01:10:25,200
Nelson Mandela as having died in prison

1419
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:30,920
in South Africa not from illness in 2013

1420
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:33,210
and so she I think she put up the

1421
01:10:40,130 --> 01:10:36,570
website and just made it known that she

1422
01:10:41,660 --> 01:10:40,140
has distinct memories that that Nelson

1423
01:10:44,510 --> 01:10:41,670
Mandela died in prison and it turns out

1424
01:10:46,850 --> 01:10:44,520
that a whole bunch of people also have

1425
01:10:50,150 --> 01:10:46,860
that memory and remembered a funeral

1426
01:10:51,710 --> 01:10:50,160
exactly yeah yeah yeah even remember

1427
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:51,720
seeing a funeral procession on

1428
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:53,130
television which is hard to explain

1429
01:10:58,820 --> 01:10:56,880
right very hard to explain well in the

1430
01:11:04,520 --> 01:10:58,830
definition of altar view that seems

1431
01:11:07,370 --> 01:11:04,530
pretty hard in fast in that state to

1432
01:11:10,279 --> 01:11:07,380
state the definition again okay Ultra vu

1433
01:11:14,419 --> 01:11:10,289
is when you remember reality diff

1434
01:11:16,399 --> 01:11:14,429
we than it appears to be okay so no okay

1435
01:11:17,629 --> 01:11:16,409
I think you said it before earlier a

1436
01:11:20,689 --> 01:11:17,639
little bit different you didn't say

1437
01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:20,699
appears you said that things that that

1438
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:22,980
weren't real or didn't happen right a

1439
01:11:28,279 --> 01:11:26,400
very hard and fast differently than it

1440
01:11:32,930 --> 01:11:28,289
is right right right right

1441
01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:32,940
okay so then suggesting that the the

1442
01:11:38,509 --> 01:11:35,940
real versions of this are in fact the

1443
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:38,519
truth right and that's that's kind of

1444
01:11:48,799 --> 01:11:44,010
hard to accept to accept for many yeah -

1445
01:11:53,029 --> 01:11:48,809
except for me only because I've got my

1446
01:11:54,859 --> 01:11:53,039
own memories of certain things now I'm

1447
01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:54,869
not going to go down the list of

1448
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:56,820
thousands of Mandel effects out there

1449
01:12:01,640 --> 01:11:59,760
and we've all seen those lists and I

1450
01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:01,650
don't agree with the majority of those

1451
01:12:06,589 --> 01:12:03,840
but there are a couple of things that I

1452
01:12:09,229 --> 01:12:06,599
know for a fact with my memory that I

1453
01:12:11,029 --> 01:12:09,239
know and nobody's gonna change that and

1454
01:12:13,370 --> 01:12:11,039
tell me well here's the evidence of it

1455
01:12:16,129 --> 01:12:13,380
well it doesn't change my memory and I

1456
01:12:18,979 --> 01:12:16,139
know where I was and and and so forth it

1457
01:12:21,109 --> 01:12:18,989
and when we look at the world where

1458
01:12:26,029 --> 01:12:21,119
millions of people have these same

1459
01:12:30,669 --> 01:12:26,039
issues are millions of people crazy or

1460
01:12:33,319 --> 01:12:30,679
is there something else going on well

1461
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:33,329
you know one characteristic of all of

1462
01:12:37,569 --> 01:12:35,250
the Mandela effects to me is that

1463
01:12:41,209 --> 01:12:37,579
they're very easy to explain

1464
01:12:42,620 --> 01:12:41,219
for example and it doesn't mean that

1465
01:12:43,970 --> 01:12:42,630
they're not true or that people don't

1466
01:12:45,979 --> 01:12:43,980
you know misremember them or even

1467
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:45,989
perhaps that reality could be shifting

1468
01:12:50,209 --> 01:12:48,510
but the in general the most plausible

1469
01:12:52,819 --> 01:12:50,219
explanation is that there's just

1470
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:52,829
collected miss remembrance right so one

1471
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:54,570
example is the bridge to Ellis Island so

1472
01:13:00,109 --> 01:12:57,570
a lot of people remember there never

1473
01:13:01,939 --> 01:13:00,119
being a bridge to Ellis Island you

1474
01:13:03,410 --> 01:13:01,949
always had to take a ferry but it turns

1475
01:13:05,450 --> 01:13:03,420
out that there actually is a bridge to

1476
01:13:07,850 --> 01:13:05,460
Ellis Island and even people that live

1477
01:13:10,279 --> 01:13:07,860
in the area say no there's no way there

1478
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:10,289
is a bridge to Ellis Island well it

1479
01:13:14,779 --> 01:13:12,960
could be used that you have a reality

1480
01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:14,789
shifting sort of behind the scenes it

1481
01:13:18,169 --> 01:13:16,289
could also be that when you think of

1482
01:13:20,419 --> 01:13:18,179
Ellis Island you think of either ferries

1483
01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:20,429
or boats in general and you would just

1484
01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:21,960
never really think of taking a bridge

1485
01:13:28,580 --> 01:13:23,280
there

1486
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:28,590
well okay it's so another example and I

1487
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:32,310
got an email about this today you know

1488
01:13:37,790 --> 01:13:34,250
the famous movies

1489
01:13:40,340 --> 01:13:37,800
Shazam with with Sinbad right so I got

1490
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:40,350
an email today from someone I don't want

1491
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:41,730
to read it but I can certainly

1492
01:13:47,060 --> 01:13:45,770
paraphrase that she remembers watching

1493
01:13:49,610 --> 01:13:47,070
Shazam

1494
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:49,620
with her kids with Sinbad and the movie

1495
01:13:57,530 --> 01:13:53,280
was great and they really loved it right

1496
01:13:59,330 --> 01:13:57,540
now now that's not a memory of I think I

1497
01:14:01,940 --> 01:13:59,340
remember seeing it in a video store

1498
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:01,950
right I remember seeing I remember

1499
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:04,170
hearing about it but saying that you

1500
01:14:08,780 --> 01:14:06,480
watched it many times with your children

1501
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:08,790
and it was great now that's a whole

1502
01:14:13,070 --> 01:14:10,410
nother that's a whole other type of

1503
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:13,080
Mandela effect then that one got me

1504
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:15,650
because I remember that movie as well

1505
01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:19,770
somebody sent me an email of the movie

1506
01:14:24,140 --> 01:14:21,840
in their video collection with that with

1507
01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:24,150
the list of their recorded they had all

1508
01:14:28,670 --> 01:14:26,520
of their movies catalog that they copied

1509
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,680
on videotape uh-huh and there it was

1510
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:30,960
right Shazam with Sinbad and it's

1511
01:14:36,190 --> 01:14:32,880
numbered and cataloged and a photograph

1512
01:14:38,810 --> 01:14:36,200
of the of the videotape from a trunk of

1513
01:14:42,260 --> 01:14:38,820
videotapes so you know I haven't seen

1514
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:42,270
the movie but there you go that's that's

1515
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:43,770
a whole nother type of Mandela effect

1516
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:45,600
how do you explain that kind of stuff

1517
01:14:50,590 --> 01:14:48,210
away are you saying yeah and you

1518
01:14:54,860 --> 01:14:50,600
remember the movie yourself so for you

1519
01:15:00,440 --> 01:14:54,870
how do you start to justify your false

1520
01:15:02,300 --> 01:15:00,450
memory I would basically just call it my

1521
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:02,310
false memory I'm kind of more interested

1522
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:06,090
in like hypothetical explanations for

1523
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:07,170
how something like this could be

1524
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:15,210
possible such as well when it comes to

1525
01:15:19,190 --> 01:15:16,970
possible explanations you know there's

1526
01:15:21,610 --> 01:15:19,200
one of the things that's fun about the

1527
01:15:26,150 --> 01:15:21,620
Mandela effect is that there are so many

1528
01:15:28,430 --> 01:15:26,160
theories behind it floated so the first

1529
01:15:29,870 --> 01:15:28,440
one of course is the collective

1530
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:29,880
misremembering theory and that's

1531
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:32,250
basically that you have to acknowledge

1532
01:15:37,099 --> 01:15:34,410
that there are false memories or

1533
01:15:40,069 --> 01:15:37,109
cognitive biases or incorrect memories

1534
01:15:41,719 --> 01:15:40,079
and there are things about certain of

1535
01:15:43,759 --> 01:15:41,729
these Mendel effects that might give

1536
01:15:46,399 --> 01:15:43,769
large swath of the population reason to

1537
01:15:47,989 --> 01:15:46,409
misremember it for example one of them

1538
01:15:50,349 --> 01:15:47,999
is that a lot of people remember there

1539
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:50,359
being 52 states not 50 states

1540
01:15:56,389 --> 01:15:52,530
interesting but it kind of makes sense

1541
01:15:58,250 --> 01:15:56,399
that the Alaska and Hawaii the non

1542
01:16:01,069 --> 01:15:58,260
continental United States might be in

1543
01:16:07,790 --> 01:16:01,079
their minds maybe adding those two to 50

1544
01:16:10,129 --> 01:16:07,800
to come up with 52 another one and

1545
01:16:13,399 --> 01:16:10,139
probably the most common theory that's

1546
01:16:16,639 --> 01:16:13,409
floated is the theory of parallel

1547
01:16:17,869 --> 01:16:16,649
realities in different forms probably

1548
01:16:22,219 --> 01:16:17,879
one of you for the most about right

1549
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:22,229
mm-hmm okay so parallel reality is also

1550
01:16:27,469 --> 01:16:24,449
called the many worlds theory or the

1551
01:16:30,949 --> 01:16:27,479
multiverse theory is basically the idea

1552
01:16:33,259 --> 01:16:30,959
that alternate histories and futures are

1553
01:16:36,219 --> 01:16:33,269
real so there's something about the

1554
01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:36,229
nature of reality that has created a

1555
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:40,169
breakaway or parallel reality or myriad

1556
01:16:46,489 --> 01:16:42,719
parallel realities all the time and that

1557
01:16:48,919 --> 01:16:46,499
we were when it comes to Mendell effects

1558
01:16:51,020 --> 01:16:48,929
previously in a reality for example

1559
01:16:53,659 --> 01:16:51,030
where there is a movie called Shazam and

1560
01:16:55,310 --> 01:16:53,669
now we're not in a reality or reality

1561
01:16:58,279 --> 01:16:55,320
where there's not a movie college exam

1562
01:17:00,919 --> 01:16:58,289
but there's a persistence of memory for

1563
01:17:04,699 --> 01:17:00,929
some of us about that parallel reality

1564
01:17:06,949 --> 01:17:04,709
for some reason now what okay so the

1565
01:17:09,099 --> 01:17:06,959
parallel reality and especially when

1566
01:17:11,659 --> 01:17:09,109
we're discussing the science of things

1567
01:17:13,310 --> 01:17:11,669
when it gets into quantum mechanics and

1568
01:17:17,599 --> 01:17:13,320
quantum theory in the multi world theory

1569
01:17:20,629 --> 01:17:17,609
and parallel worlds and and and all of

1570
01:17:23,449 --> 01:17:20,639
the the effects of of things in

1571
01:17:26,989 --> 01:17:23,459
entanglement if that is indeed the case

1572
01:17:29,419 --> 01:17:26,999
and science is now strongly on that side

1573
01:17:31,159 --> 01:17:29,429
of things still debated but still you

1574
01:17:33,770 --> 01:17:31,169
know we're getting really close to

1575
01:17:37,159 --> 01:17:33,780
proving the existence of this well then

1576
01:17:39,949 --> 01:17:37,169
in a parallel world right next to us

1577
01:17:42,979 --> 01:17:39,959
where the movie Shazam was made with a

1578
01:17:46,189 --> 01:17:42,989
Sinbad maybe not in our timeline but

1579
01:17:48,589 --> 01:17:46,199
something causes an interference where

1580
01:17:49,790 --> 01:17:48,599
it blips across and affects in some

1581
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:49,800
people of

1582
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:52,290
are then seeing this version of that

1583
01:17:56,420 --> 01:17:54,090
parallel world and it becomes part of

1584
01:17:58,580 --> 01:17:56,430
their memory that parallel world returns

1585
01:18:01,370 --> 01:17:58,590
to where it came from so now there's no

1586
01:18:03,950 --> 01:18:01,380
evidence of what everybody saw but they

1587
01:18:06,590 --> 01:18:03,960
still have the memory that is about as

1588
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:06,600
as possible as anything I could lay out

1589
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:08,130
there for the Mandela effect and I'm

1590
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:09,210
comfortable with it

1591
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:13,010
I seriously am man yeah I seriously yeah

1592
01:18:18,740 --> 01:18:15,690
well it could be I mean the reason why

1593
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:18,750
we got parallel realities of the

1594
01:18:24,820 --> 01:18:21,120
multiverse theory in the first place is

1595
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:24,830
because it was a way for experimental

1596
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:27,330
physicist to reconcile a lot of

1597
01:18:30,620 --> 01:18:29,250
difficult to explain things like

1598
01:18:32,930 --> 01:18:30,630
randomness in action at a distance

1599
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:32,940
that's right at a cosmological scale

1600
01:18:37,670 --> 01:18:35,520
sure and so I mean there's reasons why

1601
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:37,680
these like good scientific reasons why

1602
01:18:44,660 --> 01:18:41,330
these are floated there are criticisms

1603
01:18:46,370 --> 01:18:44,670
one is that where does it end

1604
01:18:47,780 --> 01:18:46,380
right so it kind of violates outcomes

1605
01:18:51,170 --> 01:18:47,790
raiser in the sense that you could have

1606
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:51,180
gazillions of parallel realities

1607
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:54,930
splitting off and maybe or maybe not to

1608
01:19:01,670 --> 01:18:57,840
decohere or to rejoin and then it's also

1609
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:01,680
very clear as to when and where and how

1610
01:19:08,150 --> 01:19:03,840
these things split off so that's a

1611
01:19:10,090 --> 01:19:08,160
criticism you also might violate notions

1612
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:10,100
which might be antiquated anyway of

1613
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:13,110
conservation of energy if you're

1614
01:19:16,910 --> 01:19:14,610
splitting off all of these different

1615
01:19:20,930 --> 01:19:16,920
universes and there's those rebuttals to

1616
01:19:22,730 --> 01:19:20,940
that too but yeah I mean there's the

1617
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:22,740
parallel realities is a very interesting

1618
01:19:30,860 --> 01:19:26,970
and compelling argument there's some who

1619
01:19:33,370 --> 01:19:30,870
believe that CERN are actually there

1620
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:33,380
experiments are actually causing these

1621
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:35,850
parallel realities to sort of splinter

1622
01:19:39,290 --> 01:19:37,920
and fracture I don't really have any

1623
01:19:41,330 --> 01:19:39,300
evidence of that I'm not sure really

1624
01:19:42,470 --> 01:19:41,340
where that idea comes from but I'm just

1625
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:42,480
putting it out there because it is

1626
01:19:45,610 --> 01:19:43,920
floated as an explanation we've

1627
01:19:48,830 --> 01:19:45,620
discussed it many times on this show

1628
01:19:51,470 --> 01:19:48,840
yeah many many times on the show and

1629
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:51,480
that's another but that's another you

1630
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:53,280
know that's a whole nother show actually

1631
01:19:59,480 --> 01:19:56,400
altogether but the the reason why I

1632
01:20:01,910 --> 01:19:59,490
think all of us are concerned about CERN

1633
01:20:03,290 --> 01:20:01,920
no pun intended that we're so concerned

1634
01:20:08,750 --> 01:20:03,300
about it is that

1635
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:08,760
when your goal is to accidentally at the

1636
01:20:14,660 --> 01:20:10,890
speed of light create many black holes

1637
01:20:17,660 --> 01:20:14,670
and not knowing the outcome of said

1638
01:20:20,060 --> 01:20:17,670
experiment or the implications of it or

1639
01:20:24,770 --> 01:20:20,070
dissolving Switzerland into another

1640
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:24,780
world right that doing the these kinds

1641
01:20:29,660 --> 01:20:26,850
of experiments which I understand that

1642
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:29,670
we need to do this but we don't know the

1643
01:20:35,210 --> 01:20:32,370
effects right and could there have been

1644
01:20:38,060 --> 01:20:35,220
the piercing of a parallel world or

1645
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:38,070
opening up portals or allowing things

1646
01:20:43,130 --> 01:20:40,770
into our world that we didn't intend for

1647
01:20:44,990 --> 01:20:43,140
and we certainly don't have any control

1648
01:20:48,140 --> 01:20:45,000
over it and could that be the

1649
01:20:50,690 --> 01:20:48,150
possibility of some of these shifted

1650
01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:50,700
memories of our past well again

1651
01:20:58,220 --> 01:20:54,110
I'm okay with that I'm okay with

1652
01:21:00,530 --> 01:20:58,230
postulating that I should say yeah who

1653
01:21:02,660 --> 01:21:00,540
knows okay I definitely believe that the

1654
01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:02,670
CERN boys are up to some very

1655
01:21:07,940 --> 01:21:05,520
non-standard model unconventional

1656
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:07,950
experiments that's not really what

1657
01:21:14,630 --> 01:21:09,930
they're telling the public you don't

1658
01:21:18,860 --> 01:21:14,640
have Jayant counter-rotating magnetic

1659
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:18,870
fields and not yet bizarre effects that

1660
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:19,530
can't be explained

1661
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:22,290
right you study UFOs you know giant

1662
01:21:26,990 --> 01:21:23,910
counter rotating magnetic fields in

1663
01:21:29,900 --> 01:21:27,000
plasma go into right mm-hmm

1664
01:21:31,190 --> 01:21:29,910
yeah whether or not that's creating the

1665
01:21:32,510 --> 01:21:31,200
alternate realities I mean that's just

1666
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:32,520
like I can't do anything more than

1667
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:35,040
speculate but it's interesting and as

1668
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:36,770
far as like more parsimonious

1669
01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:39,570
explanations that are still kind of

1670
01:21:44,930 --> 01:21:41,490
wildly speculative but maybe a better

1671
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:44,940
fit in my mind the simulation theory or

1672
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:46,530
the simulation argument is it is a good

1673
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:49,890
one - yeah I studied this stuff all the

1674
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:52,320
time and I love it

1675
01:21:58,420 --> 01:21:56,010
- I love it when these physicists and

1676
01:22:01,670 --> 01:21:58,430
theoretical physicists and philosophers

1677
01:22:03,290 --> 01:22:01,680
start to go at it in these debates when

1678
01:22:07,250 --> 01:22:03,300
they're discussing consciousness or

1679
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:07,260
simulation theory and in quantum

1680
01:22:12,710 --> 01:22:08,970
mechanics and quantum theory and string

1681
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:12,720
theory it is amazing to have all of

1682
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:19,930
there's one thing that great minds do

1683
01:22:25,900 --> 01:22:23,330
it's not agree oh they just go they

1684
01:22:29,260 --> 01:22:25,910
really really do and and they come from

1685
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:29,270
a foundation of strong academics and

1686
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:32,810
they are very tough to bend right it's

1687
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:36,170
you know the when you get when you get a

1688
01:22:40,540 --> 01:22:38,170
physicist a career professional

1689
01:22:43,330 --> 01:22:40,550
physicists and theoretical physicists

1690
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:43,340
going at it and throwing a philosopher

1691
01:22:50,260 --> 01:22:45,650
and and start to discuss the universe

1692
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:50,270
and and simulation theory oh man I love

1693
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:52,970
it it's nothing better and now let's get

1694
01:22:58,990 --> 01:22:55,010
back to this because this is what you do

1695
01:23:02,620 --> 01:22:59,000
and you research this your software

1696
01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,630
which is called entangled right ooh your

1697
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:04,880
software is you started to develop this

1698
01:23:11,860 --> 01:23:08,570
what was the intention what were you

1699
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:11,870
trying to achieve with the software well

1700
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:15,170
it was basically to show two fold one to

1701
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:17,360
give people a hands-on experience of

1702
01:23:25,660 --> 01:23:19,520
consciousness affecting physical reality

1703
01:23:27,940 --> 01:23:25,670
a and B to expand the level of inquiry

1704
01:23:29,770 --> 01:23:27,950
in consciousness research to a global

1705
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:29,780
scale and I should probably step back

1706
01:23:37,810 --> 01:23:33,170
and explain a little bit about the the

1707
01:23:41,530 --> 01:23:37,820
origin of the of entangled because it'll

1708
01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:41,540
start to make sense that way sure ok so

1709
01:23:47,620 --> 01:23:44,510
back in the 70s there was the Dean of

1710
01:23:49,150 --> 01:23:47,630
Princeton Robert John and he had he was

1711
01:23:50,500 --> 01:23:49,160
basically sitting at the height of his

1712
01:23:54,340 --> 01:23:50,510
career he was the Dean of the

1713
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:54,350
engineering school he had invented a new

1714
01:24:02,620 --> 01:23:58,130
generation of electric spacecraft plasma

1715
01:24:04,030 --> 01:24:02,630
propulsion and he started to think about

1716
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:04,040
the very questions that we were

1717
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:06,530
discussing today namely surrounding

1718
01:24:10,210 --> 01:24:08,210
consciousness is consciousness and

1719
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:10,220
illusion or is there something more to

1720
01:24:16,270 --> 01:24:14,570
it is it somehow a part of the

1721
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:16,280
fundamental fabric of physical reality

1722
01:24:24,780 --> 01:24:22,000
and he and his one of his students

1723
01:24:28,609 --> 01:24:24,790
designed an experiment to test that and

1724
01:24:31,850 --> 01:24:28,619
that experiment now-famous is

1725
01:24:33,859 --> 01:24:31,860
using random number generators so random

1726
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:33,869
number generators are not computer

1727
01:24:38,750 --> 01:24:36,239
programs that may convert physical

1728
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:38,760
phenomena like quantum tunneling or

1729
01:24:44,209 --> 01:24:41,210
something like that into a series of

1730
01:24:45,740 --> 01:24:44,219
unpredictable ones and zeros and because

1731
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:45,750
of what we know about quantum mechanics

1732
01:24:50,270 --> 01:24:48,210
those series of ones and zeros are

1733
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:50,280
intrinsically random and there's good

1734
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:52,110
ways to shield it so can think of it

1735
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:54,210
kind of like a quantum coin flipper it's

1736
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:56,010
flipping heads tails heads heads heads

1737
01:24:59,959 --> 01:24:59,010
tails many many many times you can look

1738
01:25:01,640 --> 01:24:59,969
at the heads and you can look at the

1739
01:25:04,370 --> 01:25:01,650
tails and you find that there's

1740
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:04,380
basically a 50/50 heads and tails

1741
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:08,130
perfectly random right right until you

1742
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:12,090
get consciousness or a volunteer in this

1743
01:25:16,580 --> 01:25:14,000
case to sit in front of the machine and

1744
01:25:18,979 --> 01:25:16,590
using only their thoughts to try to

1745
01:25:21,050 --> 01:25:18,989
nudge the output of that random number

1746
01:25:24,020 --> 01:25:21,060
generator to produce more ones or more

1747
01:25:27,649 --> 01:25:24,030
zeroes very straightforward it turns out

1748
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:27,659
that the machine typically responds and

1749
01:25:32,810 --> 01:25:29,610
it responds in some statistically

1750
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:32,820
significant way meaning a person intends

1751
01:25:36,859 --> 01:25:34,320
oh I'm going to make it pretty small

1752
01:25:38,450 --> 01:25:36,869
ones outcome more ones more zeroes

1753
01:25:41,089 --> 01:25:38,460
outcome more zeroes and so forth

1754
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:41,099
very simple experiment but profound in

1755
01:25:45,229 --> 01:25:43,170
its implications because there's no

1756
01:25:49,010 --> 01:25:45,239
standard model explanation for how

1757
01:25:52,339 --> 01:25:49,020
consciousness could be correlated or be

1758
01:25:53,930 --> 01:25:52,349
affecting the output of this device it

1759
01:25:56,660 --> 01:25:53,940
implies that there's some sort of

1760
01:26:00,729 --> 01:25:56,670
non-local or unseen information exchange

1761
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:00,739
between the consciousness and the system

1762
01:26:06,290 --> 01:26:04,080
so that work persisted for several

1763
01:26:08,930 --> 01:26:06,300
decades and was you know published and

1764
01:26:12,589 --> 01:26:08,940
repeated and all that controversial and

1765
01:26:15,020 --> 01:26:12,599
still is today out of the pair lab there

1766
01:26:17,780 --> 01:26:15,030
was a researcher named Roger Nelson and

1767
01:26:21,229 --> 01:26:17,790
Dean Radin who he might have had on your

1768
01:26:24,350 --> 01:26:21,239
show before absolutely yep and they had

1769
01:26:27,109 --> 01:26:24,360
the idea well okay we're finding these

1770
01:26:30,890 --> 01:26:27,119
anomalies when it's a single person

1771
01:26:34,089 --> 01:26:30,900
attempting to affect this device but if

1772
01:26:36,430 --> 01:26:34,099
we brought one of these devices to

1773
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:36,440
environments in which no one's

1774
01:26:41,770 --> 01:26:39,210
intentionally trying to affect it but

1775
01:26:43,930 --> 01:26:41,780
are engaged in some sort of abnormal con

1776
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:43,940
selectivity meaning they're at a concert

1777
01:26:47,530 --> 01:26:45,530
or they're in a business meeting or

1778
01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:47,540
they're in a drum circle or they're at

1779
01:26:50,980 --> 01:26:50,450
yoga or they're meditating something

1780
01:26:53,740 --> 01:26:50,990
like that

1781
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:53,750
and what they found was that when you

1782
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:55,280
brought these random number generators

1783
01:26:59,260 --> 01:26:57,440
in the physical into physical proximity

1784
01:27:02,110 --> 01:26:59,270
of people that are for example

1785
01:27:03,550 --> 01:27:02,120
meditating you can often register in

1786
01:27:07,630 --> 01:27:03,560
effect now there's a lot of debate as to

1787
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:07,640
what that effect is but nonetheless

1788
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:10,730
there is this effect so probably over a

1789
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:12,410
couple of beers one night they said well

1790
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:15,110
what if we expand this network of random

1791
01:27:20,530 --> 01:27:17,290
number generators around the world and

1792
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:20,540
collect data centrally in a centralized

1793
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:22,490
location will you be able to find

1794
01:27:30,430 --> 01:27:26,810
anything that is like coherent signals

1795
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:30,440
between these devices meaning if you had

1796
01:27:36,820 --> 01:27:34,370
a random number generator in Australia

1797
01:27:39,670 --> 01:27:36,830
and one in the Middle East and where in

1798
01:27:43,210 --> 01:27:39,680
America their data output should all be

1799
01:27:45,070 --> 01:27:43,220
random but could we find times in which

1800
01:27:47,140 --> 01:27:45,080
they are synchronized across their

1801
01:27:48,340 --> 01:27:47,150
coherent and do those times correspond

1802
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:48,350
to anything that's happening that would

1803
01:27:53,260 --> 01:27:50,930
capture global attention so that's what

1804
01:27:55,180 --> 01:27:53,270
they did and that is famously known as

1805
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:55,190
the global consciousness project and

1806
01:27:59,710 --> 01:27:57,010
it's been running for 20-something years

1807
01:28:02,770 --> 01:27:59,720
there's a network of about 70 random

1808
01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:02,780
number generators that are producing

1809
01:28:07,330 --> 01:28:05,450
data which is being collected and I

1810
01:28:11,530 --> 01:28:07,340
think most people know about this

1811
01:28:14,170 --> 01:28:11,540
through the 911 output where a few hours

1812
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:14,180
before the plane struck the first plane

1813
01:28:18,250 --> 01:28:15,110
struck on 9/11

1814
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:18,260
you had a hugely statistically

1815
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:22,010
significant covariance yeah spike it was

1816
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:26,330
a I watched the graphs on that and that

1817
01:28:31,650 --> 01:28:29,090
is something that is that doesn't need

1818
01:28:34,060 --> 01:28:31,660
to be explained I mean that is just

1819
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:34,070
especially when you're pragmatic right

1820
01:28:41,250 --> 01:28:36,080
and that's what you need into is charts

1821
01:28:43,690 --> 01:28:41,260
and graphs that was pretty evident yeah

1822
01:28:45,790 --> 01:28:43,700
exactly I don't remember the exact

1823
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:45,800
statistical likelihood but it was off

1824
01:28:48,190 --> 01:28:47,570
the charts it was off the charts it was

1825
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:48,200
off the charts

1826
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:49,850
we need to take a break right here and

1827
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:51,890
add them during this break I want you to

1828
01:28:55,730 --> 01:28:54,110
go and check out your Twitter account

1829
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1830
01:29:04,130 --> 01:29:01,940
and there is a copy of Sam on videotape

1831
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:04,140
there's a there's a picture of it there

1832
01:29:08,690 --> 01:29:05,970
and I guess we're gonna we're gonna

1833
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:08,700
watch this at some point so let's take

1834
01:29:12,050 --> 01:29:10,410
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Store you are listening to fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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hi I'm Lisa Vance you're listening to

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Jimmy Church this is revolution the

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revolution will not be televised the

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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all right welcome back fade to black

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our guest tonight Adam curry you can

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follow me on twitter at JDO you can

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follow Adam had Adams lab and as you can

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see Twitter starting to heat up here

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pretty good Adam did you see the copy of

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the Shazam videotape I haven't looked at

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it yet okay

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well it looks like we're gonna get we're

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gonna get the tape to play and then

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shoot it on the TV with a cell phone

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video and we're gonna post that up here

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on Twitter now wouldn't that be a pretty

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memorable show amazing yeah yeah we

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shall see we shall see I mean we all

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need you know I keep saying what would

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it take for proof and you know to tip

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the scales once one thing falls Adam and

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I doll it's all gonna just fall

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including I would have thought that the

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the spike at 9/11 with the internet

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consciousness right feeding itself was a

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lot of proof of something and nobody

1970
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really bit on it why do you think that

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was well it's pretty out there I

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wouldn't say that nobody bid on it you

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know millions and millions of people

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heard about that and were catalyzed into

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exploring or deepening their rabbit hole

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so it did have an effect you might even

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look at it differently it could be that

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collectively there is a presentiment

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there are n G's picked up about what was

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about to happen you could also look at

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it as what's called retro causality

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meaning because that event was so

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important the 9/11 spike everyone who in

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the future were to hear about it cause

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the backwards going effect at the moment

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that the data was recorded hours before

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the plane struck to create that spike

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and that's even more sensational right

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that's that's that's yeah that's pretty

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big stuff and when you

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you started to put this software

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together okay well let's actually let's

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look let's talk about that because we're

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gonna we're gonna attempt this

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experiment here with everybody and I

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don't know what the experiment is I'm

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gonna hear about it with everybody else

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for the first time so we can all

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participate in this together

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but what does entangle do I know you

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gave the scientific explanation but to

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somebody that downloads this onto their

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phone explain it to them

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so entangled isn't out yet as you know

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I've got one more feature that I kind of

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01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:56,960
discovered on accident that I think

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makes the whole app ten times better and

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so I'm waiting to put that into it

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but the idea is that it turns when you

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download the app to your phone it turns

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your phone into a real physical random

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number generator and allows data

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collection to happen around the world

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across hundreds of thousands of data

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points so that we can start to get a

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01:38:22,300 --> 01:38:19,640
better picture of what we mean when we

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sort of gladly talk about collective

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consciousness or collective

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consciousness effects meaning we can

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look at this output of random number

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01:38:32,980 --> 01:38:29,390
generators on your phones in real time

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and start to actually pose experiments

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01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:35,060
we're not reactively looking at data but

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we can sort of more proactively set up

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experiments and test outcomes when

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01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:43,310
that's done I'll come back on your show

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and we'll explore that a little bit more

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yeah absolutely

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well and then we have you know

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collective memories too as well like

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there are a lot of people out there a

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lot millions of people that actually

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remember or think that Sammy Hagar

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replaced David Lee Roth and Van Halen

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and it never happened but some people

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think that it did see I'm joking see I

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01:39:14,860 --> 01:39:11,420
just messed with you and us and that is

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part of the collective memory right is

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it the power of suggestion and and then

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suddenly becomes a real memory well I

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01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:23,210
think that there's something to that I

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01:39:28,570 --> 01:39:27,050
think that you can get bizarre effects

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01:39:31,390 --> 01:39:28,580
so long as you're able

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to create doubt in your own mind right

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let me let me give you an example did

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01:39:40,870 --> 01:39:37,670
you lock your your car door today oh man

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ok great question I think I did you

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think you did right but maybe you didn't

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01:39:48,690 --> 01:39:45,110
right because it's so normal for you

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01:39:50,980 --> 01:39:48,700
right it's automatic right and you've

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01:39:51,460 --> 01:39:50,990
previously not locked your car door

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right

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01:39:56,740 --> 01:39:53,030
you've forgotten in the past to lock

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01:39:58,840 --> 01:39:56,750
your car door sure yeah and maybe you

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01:40:00,280 --> 01:39:58,850
had a long trip the other day and you

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01:40:01,780 --> 01:40:00,290
didn't sleep very well and you're just

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01:40:03,190 --> 01:40:01,790
kind of out of it and it's just one of

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those days and you didn't lock the car

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door could be it could be that there's

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01:40:10,780 --> 01:40:09,020
some interesting synchronicity between

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01:40:12,430 --> 01:40:10,790
me bringing up the fact that you didn't

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lock your car door and the fact that

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01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:14,150
when you go to check tonight you didn't

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01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:16,850
lock your car door right so you see what

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I'm doing in the from the point of view

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of the present moment I'm creating for

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01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:26,450
you reasons that this phenomenon didn't

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happen and now that the car door being

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locked or unlocked is sort of in a state

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of superposition in your own mind right

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01:40:39,220 --> 01:40:36,350
you think you did but you're not a

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01:40:40,780 --> 01:40:39,230
hundred percent sure and maybe after

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01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:40,790
this conversation you're a little bit

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01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:45,170
less sure that you did so from my way of

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01:40:52,540 --> 01:40:47,330
thinking anytime that there are

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probabilities you open to fun you open

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01:40:59,200 --> 01:40:55,790
those probabilities to fun your bonus by

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consciousness and that incidentally is

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how I think of the Mandela effect to put

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01:41:07,660 --> 01:41:05,590
it a little differently every theory

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01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:07,670
that's like a really good theory not

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01:41:12,100 --> 01:41:10,130
every theory but most theories in that

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01:41:15,610 --> 01:41:12,110
are proposed in science they're

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symmetric and there's an idea that time

2085
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:18,230
and causality might be symmetric so we

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01:41:25,540 --> 01:41:22,850
used to thinking of the past as 100% set

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in stone happened one way did not change

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but the future is a probability function

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01:41:33,910 --> 01:41:31,160
of the present meaning it's likely to be

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01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:33,920
one way but it may not be that way but

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01:41:39,490 --> 01:41:37,520
it's likely to be a certain way so that

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01:41:40,850 --> 01:41:39,500
is a very asymmetric way of looking at

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01:41:43,010 --> 01:41:40,860
causality from

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01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:43,020
president you know causing something in

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01:41:47,689 --> 01:41:45,690
the future but what if it was actually

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01:41:50,689 --> 01:41:47,699
symmetric so what if time was symmetric

2097
01:41:52,729 --> 01:41:50,699
you would have basically a probability

2098
01:41:55,850 --> 01:41:52,739
the past is like a probability function

2099
01:41:57,439 --> 01:41:55,860
of the present moment just as the future

2100
01:41:59,209 --> 01:41:57,449
is a probability function of the present

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01:42:01,310 --> 01:41:59,219
moment and because it's a probability

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01:42:03,649 --> 01:42:01,320
function from the point of view of the

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01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:03,659
present with consciousness we can

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01:42:10,010 --> 01:42:06,810
actually shift those probabilities in a

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01:42:12,859 --> 01:42:10,020
way that affects the past from our point

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01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:12,869
of view does it make sense well it does

2107
01:42:18,290 --> 01:42:15,210
if we take it literally but how could

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01:42:24,050 --> 01:42:18,300
the past have probabilities in it when

2109
01:42:27,500 --> 01:42:24,060
it's happened well it's happened in your

2110
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:27,510
mind and there's only evidence of it

2111
01:42:35,510 --> 01:42:32,330
where and when you go to look for it so

2112
01:42:36,979 --> 01:42:35,520
basically what this implies is something

2113
01:42:39,580 --> 01:42:36,989
that we've known for a while ish is that

2114
01:42:42,979 --> 01:42:39,590
any theory of reality really needs only

2115
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:42,989
two criteria we need consistent

2116
01:42:47,919 --> 01:42:45,210
histories and you need probable futures

2117
01:42:51,050 --> 01:42:47,929
mm-hmm so a consistent history is

2118
01:42:53,030 --> 01:42:51,060
there's a consistent line of what

2119
01:42:54,740 --> 01:42:53,040
appears to be cause and effect to

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01:42:57,530 --> 01:42:54,750
explain something in the present moment

2121
01:42:59,240 --> 01:42:57,540
and probable futures meaning that

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01:43:00,859 --> 01:42:59,250
reality isn't going to spin off into

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01:43:02,689 --> 01:43:00,869
some unpredictable direction because

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01:43:05,750 --> 01:43:02,699
life that's very not friendly to life

2125
01:43:07,220 --> 01:43:05,760
right so consistent histories and

2126
01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:07,230
probable futures are really all you need

2127
01:43:14,750 --> 01:43:12,719
and incidentally all we have so if the

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01:43:16,490 --> 01:43:14,760
past is a probability function of the

2129
01:43:21,169 --> 01:43:16,500
present I'm not saying that it is I'm

2130
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:21,179
saying that it might be right then what

2131
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:22,770
we know about consciousness affecting

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01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:24,239
physical reality or probabilistic

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01:43:28,370 --> 01:43:27,090
systems means that from the point of

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view of the present we might be

2135
01:43:32,359 --> 01:43:29,969
affecting the past in a way that lines

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01:43:36,020 --> 01:43:32,369
up to be consistent with the present

2137
01:43:38,990 --> 01:43:36,030
moment isn't that more sensational than

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01:43:41,930 --> 01:43:39,000
parallel worries I actually think it

2139
01:43:46,399 --> 01:43:41,940
resolves parallel worlds right right yes

2140
01:43:49,339 --> 01:43:46,409
yes okay well last week I don't want to

2141
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:49,349
I don't want to revisit this subject but

2142
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:52,050
I have to because of this conversation

2143
01:43:58,629 --> 01:43:54,090
I'm gonna give you the very

2144
01:44:02,089 --> 01:43:58,639
very very very short version of this in

2145
01:44:03,859 --> 01:44:02,099
1972 I stepped out I was nine years old

2146
01:44:07,189 --> 01:44:03,869
stepped out into my front yard I saw

2147
01:44:09,290 --> 01:44:07,199
something in the summer I saw something

2148
01:44:13,850 --> 01:44:09,300
up in the sky caught my eye I look up

2149
01:44:16,820 --> 01:44:13,860
and I see a rigid airship like the

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01:44:19,490 --> 01:44:16,830
Hindenburg right with the ribs that

2151
01:44:21,919 --> 01:44:19,500
motors on the side you know the whole

2152
01:44:24,109 --> 01:44:21,929
thing and I see it fly by and I and I

2153
01:44:28,459 --> 01:44:24,119
chase it across this field it was low

2154
01:44:31,490 --> 01:44:28,469
and I counted the engines and I just you

2155
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:31,500
know memorized everything so two days

2156
01:44:37,430 --> 01:44:35,210
ago I think it was two days ago maybe

2157
01:44:39,530 --> 01:44:37,440
anyway

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01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:39,540
or was it Thursday of last week today's

2159
01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:41,010
Tuesday must have been Thursday of last

2160
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:43,520
week I went and I the memory came back

2161
01:44:53,330 --> 01:44:45,840
I'm like oh yeah that's right so I

2162
01:44:55,399 --> 01:44:53,340
decided to research the airships and so

2163
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:55,409
I could find out which one that I saw

2164
01:44:59,300 --> 01:44:57,119
maybe I could find the name of it right

2165
01:45:01,310 --> 01:44:59,310
and you know what year they were flying

2166
01:45:03,950 --> 01:45:01,320
around and what basis they were

2167
01:45:06,530 --> 01:45:03,960
stationed at and so forth you know with

2168
01:45:10,370 --> 01:45:06,540
the Navy and so I start researching on

2169
01:45:14,270 --> 01:45:10,380
the web and then I find out that there

2170
01:45:16,430 --> 01:45:14,280
were none that there were none we

2171
01:45:19,459 --> 01:45:16,440
stopped the program the last one was

2172
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:19,469
dismantled at the end of 1939 none had

2173
01:45:26,330 --> 01:45:23,010
flown since 1935 the Hindenburg crashed

2174
01:45:29,390 --> 01:45:26,340
in 37 effectively ending the program

2175
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:29,400
worldwide after the Hindenburg in 37

2176
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:32,639
there were no more rigid airships on

2177
01:45:42,620 --> 01:45:36,530
planet Earth okay so what did I see in

2178
01:45:45,740 --> 01:45:42,630
1972 do you understand and and so my

2179
01:45:47,089 --> 01:45:45,750
mind was blown last time II I just

2180
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:47,099
couldn't it didn't make any sense I

2181
01:45:51,770 --> 01:45:49,530
thought I was gonna have some fun okay

2182
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:51,780
was the USS Los Angeles and it was a

2183
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:53,730
Great Lakes Naval Air Station north of

2184
01:45:58,760 --> 01:45:56,610
Chicago 1972 and it flew to Los Angeles

2185
01:46:02,390 --> 01:45:58,770
whatever you know I was gonna find out

2186
01:46:06,189 --> 01:46:02,400
these facts and I found out that there

2187
01:46:08,030 --> 01:46:06,199
were none now wait wait a minute here

2188
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:08,040
you know and so

2189
01:46:14,060 --> 01:46:11,850
what what do I do with that III my

2190
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:14,070
memories not going to change I saw what

2191
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:16,530
I saw right that's it

2192
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:19,410
I saw what I saw what what do we do with

2193
01:46:24,050 --> 01:46:22,170
that Adam what you know that isn't that

2194
01:46:25,850 --> 01:46:24,060
is in collective consciousness or

2195
01:46:28,370 --> 01:46:25,860
collective memories or suggestive

2196
01:46:30,140 --> 01:46:28,380
memories that is something else

2197
01:46:31,550 --> 01:46:30,150
altogether and I I don't know talking

2198
01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:31,560
about the parallel worlds I don't know

2199
01:46:37,970 --> 01:46:34,080
was that an example of that I have no

2200
01:46:40,610 --> 01:46:37,980
idea but the memory is real well it's a

2201
01:46:43,370 --> 01:46:40,620
fine case of alternative right yeah well

2202
01:46:45,550 --> 01:46:43,380
no that's not alter vu because alter vu

2203
01:46:51,380 --> 01:46:45,560
says that it's a memory of something

2204
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:51,390
that wasn't real okay no it was real it

2205
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:55,250
was fit I saw it it wasn't a ghost

2206
01:47:02,720 --> 01:46:59,520
that's saying I saw ghost or UFO I'm

2207
01:47:06,350 --> 01:47:02,730
saying any no it was a frigging

2208
01:47:07,970 --> 01:47:06,360
Hindenburg flying over my house well

2209
01:47:11,540 --> 01:47:07,980
another example before we get into the

2210
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:11,550
experiment that is very common our

2211
01:47:17,890 --> 01:47:15,090
dreams we think of a dream as something

2212
01:47:20,900 --> 01:47:17,900
like that where while we're sleeping

2213
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:20,910
we're living in a reality that bears no

2214
01:47:26,900 --> 01:47:24,210
resemblance at all to waking life but it

2215
01:47:28,370 --> 01:47:26,910
seems so real right you're you're this

2216
01:47:32,420 --> 01:47:28,380
person these people around you the

2217
01:47:35,690 --> 01:47:32,430
scenarios unfolding and you wake up and

2218
01:47:37,610 --> 01:47:35,700
you have strong memories of this

2219
01:47:39,890 --> 01:47:37,620
adventure or whatever it was having

2220
01:47:42,980 --> 01:47:39,900
taken place but there's zero physical

2221
01:47:45,260 --> 01:47:42,990
evidence for it yeah I have no idea I

2222
01:47:47,630 --> 01:47:45,270
don't know I don't know did I some kind

2223
01:47:51,770 --> 01:47:47,640
of crazy time vortex did I just step

2224
01:47:54,230 --> 01:47:51,780
through it you know I have no idea I

2225
01:47:56,540 --> 01:47:54,240
have no idea but the memory you know and

2226
01:47:58,580 --> 01:47:56,550
it was so I mean it's it's real it

2227
01:48:01,280 --> 01:47:58,590
really happened so much so that I went

2228
01:48:03,620 --> 01:48:01,290
to research to see what was hanging out

2229
01:48:05,900 --> 01:48:03,630
in Chicago in 72 just for my own little

2230
01:48:07,670 --> 01:48:05,910
you know my little satisfaction of

2231
01:48:09,230 --> 01:48:07,680
knowing what heirship it was that's all

2232
01:48:11,780 --> 01:48:09,240
I was doing and then I found out that

2233
01:48:12,410 --> 01:48:11,790
there were none and it just stopped me

2234
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:12,420
in my tracks

2235
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:14,970
okay what's the experiment how do we go

2236
01:48:21,310 --> 01:48:16,800
about this

2237
01:48:25,300 --> 01:48:21,320
okay so the experiment is a first test

2238
01:48:29,180 --> 01:48:25,310
into what we're talking about meaning

2239
01:48:32,690 --> 01:48:29,190
can we affect the past from the point of

2240
01:48:35,140 --> 01:48:32,700
view the present okay so you know what

2241
01:48:38,150 --> 01:48:35,150
my perspective here is that if if

2242
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:38,160
causality is symmetric and the past is a

2243
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:39,810
probability function mm-hmm

2244
01:48:45,620 --> 01:48:41,850
then if we create something that is

2245
01:48:47,480 --> 01:48:45,630
intrinsically probabilistic but in the

2246
01:48:49,070 --> 01:48:47,490
past then from the point of view the

2247
01:48:51,170 --> 01:48:49,080
present we might be able to affect that

2248
01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:51,180
thing okay when you say intrinsically

2249
01:48:58,640 --> 01:48:54,110
you're saying that it's not touchable

2250
01:49:00,830 --> 01:48:58,650
it's it's fundamentally random there's a

2251
01:49:03,310 --> 01:49:00,840
random component let's it's a there's a

2252
01:49:08,060 --> 01:49:03,320
probabilistic component okay so it's not

2253
01:49:12,170 --> 01:49:08,070
physical it is physical so here's here's

2254
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:12,180
what I did okay so yesterday at around 8

2255
01:49:19,070 --> 01:49:15,330
o'clock I set up an experiment okay and

2256
01:49:21,980 --> 01:49:19,080
the experiment involves measuring the

2257
01:49:25,250 --> 01:49:21,990
electrochemical properties of two vials

2258
01:49:29,690 --> 01:49:25,260
of water which are identical okay okay

2259
01:49:39,740 --> 01:49:29,700
so same source same everything vial a

2260
01:49:44,210 --> 01:49:39,750
and vial B and at 8:10 I set one vial

2261
01:49:46,490 --> 01:49:44,220
aside and said for the next five minutes

2262
01:49:47,690 --> 01:49:46,500
there's going to be an influence from

2263
01:49:51,230 --> 01:49:47,700
the listeners of this radio show

2264
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:51,240
tomorrow okay so what we're going to

2265
01:49:54,380 --> 01:49:52,890
have what we're going to do collectively

2266
01:49:57,740 --> 01:49:54,390
is we're going to try to send our

2267
01:49:59,080 --> 01:49:57,750
intention back in time to 8:10 to when

2268
01:50:03,680 --> 01:49:59,090
that vial of water

2269
01:50:05,350 --> 01:50:03,690
Lyall a is sitting on the desk before

2270
01:50:07,220 --> 01:50:05,360
measuring its electrochemical properties

2271
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:07,230
and we're going to see if we can

2272
01:50:15,010 --> 01:50:11,250
register an effort got you okay and vile

2273
01:50:19,460 --> 01:50:15,020
B was not set aside

2274
01:50:21,050 --> 01:50:19,470
that's your control vial correct so we

2275
01:50:22,820 --> 01:50:21,060
made a measurement so how we're

2276
01:50:24,590 --> 01:50:22,830
measuring this water is through I'll

2277
01:50:26,450 --> 01:50:24,600
spare you the details but it's it's a

2278
01:50:30,770 --> 01:50:26,460
device called an electrochemical

2279
01:50:34,609 --> 01:50:30,780
impedance spectroscopy device and

2280
01:50:39,020 --> 01:50:34,619
he is and what an EAS machine does is it

2281
01:50:40,549 --> 01:50:39,030
measures the impedance of water and you

2282
01:50:42,620 --> 01:50:40,559
can think of impedance in this sense is

2283
01:50:45,169 --> 01:50:42,630
the opposite of conductivity sure sure

2284
01:50:48,919 --> 01:50:45,179
so what's that number now what's the

2285
01:50:52,959 --> 01:50:48,929
what was the impedance well back then

2286
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:52,969
yesterday yes okay so the control

2287
01:50:58,520 --> 01:50:55,679
started at 25,000

2288
01:51:01,760 --> 01:50:58,530
about it so measured measured the

2289
01:51:03,470 --> 01:51:01,770
control at 25,000 okay now when water

2290
01:51:07,359 --> 01:51:03,480
water is interesting stuff right and

2291
01:51:10,939 --> 01:51:07,369
when water becomes more coherent or the

2292
01:51:12,410 --> 01:51:10,949
molecular geometric there's a number of

2293
01:51:14,779 --> 01:51:12,420
things that take place that allow water

2294
01:51:16,819 --> 01:51:14,789
to become more conductive and if it's

2295
01:51:21,290 --> 01:51:16,829
not conductive it means the impedance

2296
01:51:22,970 --> 01:51:21,300
drops so I made the trial measurement

2297
01:51:28,129 --> 01:51:22,980
and I'll send you the graphs here okay

2298
01:51:31,879 --> 01:51:28,139
and now and then the second part of what

2299
01:51:35,810 --> 01:51:31,889
I did is set aside by OB or I'm sorry I

2300
01:51:37,819 --> 01:51:35,820
simply okay so at some point we're gonna

2301
01:51:39,979 --> 01:51:37,829
spend five minutes maybe the next

2302
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:39,989
commercial break and all of us listening

2303
01:51:47,180 --> 01:51:43,650
are going to send our intentions back to

2304
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:47,190
yesterday which by the way is Monday

2305
01:51:57,399 --> 01:51:53,610
April 8th yep at 8:10 p.m. doctor just

2306
01:52:02,359 --> 01:51:57,409
just imagine trying and tending to make

2307
01:52:05,870 --> 01:52:02,369
that water sample more coherent I got

2308
01:52:07,729 --> 01:52:05,880
you okay and actually let's start this

2309
01:52:10,129 --> 01:52:07,739
right now at night do we want it more

2310
01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:10,139
conductive so we're gonna take the 25 k

2311
01:52:15,950 --> 01:52:12,239
and bring that number down that's right

2312
01:52:19,609 --> 01:52:15,960
okay so that's what I want everybody to

2313
01:52:22,700 --> 01:52:19,619
do right now it's 851 p.m. it's a 51 48

2314
01:52:26,359 --> 01:52:22,710
49 it's going to be 852 in 10 seconds

2315
01:52:32,330 --> 01:52:26,369
and so I want everybody to concentrate

2316
01:52:35,859 --> 01:52:32,340
on vial a in your mind vial a that was

2317
01:52:39,529 --> 01:52:35,869
set aside at 8:10 p.m. yesterday at 4:00

2318
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:39,539
819 that's all we have to do is think

2319
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:42,000
about that vial

2320
01:52:49,370 --> 01:52:44,970
and I'm gonna ask you to take it a step

2321
01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:49,380
further and take 25 the number 25 K in

2322
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:52,800
your mind and focus on let's go to

2323
01:53:02,930 --> 01:52:57,360
extremes 10 K will cut the impedance in

2324
01:53:04,820 --> 01:53:02,940
half right Adam let's do it okay so does

2325
01:53:08,540 --> 01:53:04,830
everybody got that right now I want you

2326
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:08,550
to focus on vial a that will set aside

2327
01:53:14,480 --> 01:53:12,210
at 8:10 p.m. yesterday at 4 8 19 and

2328
01:53:17,900 --> 01:53:14,490
we're gonna change that vial its current

2329
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:17,910
impedances 25 k I want you to

2330
01:53:25,730 --> 01:53:22,890
concentrate on 10 K 4 vile a and just

2331
01:53:28,610 --> 01:53:25,740
throw that down all the way through the

2332
01:53:31,220 --> 01:53:28,620
break and when we come back Adam is

2333
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:31,230
going to measure those now also Adam

2334
01:53:36,380 --> 01:53:34,290
send me the charts during the break from

2335
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:36,390
yesterday and I'll get those posted up

2336
01:53:45,710 --> 01:53:39,210
in Twitter this is exciting

2337
01:53:47,420 --> 01:53:45,720
ok so now this changes right from 25 k I

2338
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:47,430
don't care if it goes to 24 K that's

2339
01:53:53,450 --> 01:53:49,290
significant but if this sitting drops

2340
01:53:56,270 --> 01:53:53,460
right to 10 K what does that suggest

2341
01:54:00,890 --> 01:53:56,280
what does that suggest to the skeptics

2342
01:54:02,660 --> 01:54:00,900
out there well it's to hardcore skeptics

2343
01:54:04,310 --> 01:54:02,670
I mean it doesn't suggest much because

2344
01:54:05,930 --> 01:54:04,320
it has to be replicable and you know

2345
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:05,940
there's always this potential that I

2346
01:54:10,250 --> 01:54:08,370
didn't do the experiment so if you'd

2347
01:54:13,250 --> 01:54:10,260
know all that basically what you're

2348
01:54:16,700 --> 01:54:13,260
seeing is an anomalous retro causal

2349
01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:16,710
effect meaning for some reason the

2350
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:18,800
control vial would have stayed the same

2351
01:54:25,460 --> 01:54:21,440
why is the subject file or the test file

2352
01:54:27,790 --> 01:54:25,470
would have a different impedance

2353
01:54:32,570 --> 01:54:27,800
measurement that cannot be accounted for

2354
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:32,580
and so you know we can talk more about

2355
01:54:36,830 --> 01:54:34,650
what this actually means after the

2356
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:36,840
experiment is done because I don't want

2357
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:40,110
to talk about the the results yet until

2358
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:42,810
after it sure happens so we can't affect

2359
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:45,530
the timeline right no we can't no we can

2360
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:47,610
we can't affect the timeline but we

2361
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:50,970
don't want to confound the time so the

2362
01:54:55,169 --> 01:54:52,890
number everybody that I want you to

2363
01:55:00,089 --> 01:54:55,179
focus on is it's a simple one

2364
01:55:04,020 --> 01:55:00,099
10 K vile a that was set aside yesterday

2365
01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:04,030
at 8:10 p.m. at 4:00 819 I want you to

2366
01:55:08,699 --> 01:55:06,159
think about Adam curry I want you to

2367
01:55:14,279 --> 01:55:08,709
think about Adams lab plug all of this

2368
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:14,289
into your mind and 10k all right that's

2369
01:55:18,089 --> 01:55:16,570
what we're gonna do this is uh this is

2370
01:55:20,399 --> 01:55:18,099
going to be pretty fun this is going to

2371
01:55:24,509 --> 01:55:20,409
be pretty fun let's let's do this and

2372
01:55:27,389 --> 01:55:24,519
this is also live radio and somebody who

2373
01:55:34,469 --> 01:55:27,399
doesn't have a real name on Twitter just

2374
01:55:39,179 --> 01:55:34,479
said he could just be lying too maybe

2375
01:55:42,299 --> 01:55:39,189
maybe she's or he it says aren't maybe

2376
01:55:46,649 --> 01:55:42,309
maybe I'm lying what I don't know 10 K

2377
01:55:47,850 --> 01:55:46,659
that's the number 10 K I want everybody

2378
01:55:50,609 --> 01:55:47,860
to concentrate on it

2379
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:50,619
I want this to happen I really do and

2380
01:55:54,959 --> 01:55:53,530
and Adam before before we head to the

2381
01:55:55,199 --> 01:55:54,969
break we've got about a minute and a

2382
01:55:58,619 --> 01:55:55,209
half

2383
01:56:00,899 --> 01:55:58,629
what about the situations that seemed to

2384
01:56:06,569 --> 01:56:00,909
happen and maybe it's happened to you

2385
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:06,579
you know time slips where somebody sees

2386
01:56:12,989 --> 01:56:09,760
something on the side of the road it's a

2387
01:56:15,479 --> 01:56:12,999
house or they see a school you know

2388
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:15,489
they've grown up in this town and things

2389
01:56:21,029 --> 01:56:18,010
suddenly seem a little sepia tone and

2390
01:56:24,209 --> 01:56:21,039
black and white and they drive back down

2391
01:56:27,330 --> 01:56:24,219
the street the next day and the school

2392
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:27,340
is gone right and and the memory comes

2393
01:56:31,679 --> 01:56:29,530
back to the way it should be right the

2394
01:56:33,359 --> 01:56:31,689
reality where they've you know they've

2395
01:56:35,699 --> 01:56:33,369
driven through something where

2396
01:56:39,799 --> 01:56:35,709
temporarily things have shifted for them

2397
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:39,809
this is this is a you know this isn't

2398
01:56:46,169 --> 01:56:42,639
you know suggestive memories this is

2399
01:56:48,359 --> 01:56:46,179
something that that that seems to happen

2400
01:56:50,869 --> 01:56:48,369
and it's happened to me how do we

2401
01:56:53,790 --> 01:56:50,879
explain that Wow

2402
01:56:55,589 --> 01:56:53,800
well you know different people would

2403
01:56:57,929 --> 01:56:55,599
have different explanations it could be

2404
01:57:01,379 --> 01:56:57,939
that if we live in something like a

2405
01:57:03,689 --> 01:57:01,389
holographic universe that if you're

2406
01:57:07,030 --> 01:57:03,699
flexible with time but you might be able

2407
01:57:09,070 --> 01:57:07,040
to be then that same

2408
01:57:11,350 --> 01:57:09,080
physical space could be coming through

2409
01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:11,360
or decoded in your consciousness but

2410
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:14,800
from you know 50 60 70 years ago

2411
01:57:23,740 --> 01:57:21,050
well okay for instance and before we go

2412
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:23,750
to a simple explanation things can get a

2413
01:57:29,290 --> 01:57:27,770
little bit complicated years ago I had

2414
01:57:30,370 --> 01:57:29,300
somebody on this show that said that

2415
01:57:33,940 --> 01:57:30,380
they were on vacation with the family

2416
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:33,950
they were out in the desert believe in

2417
01:57:39,490 --> 01:57:36,170
New Mexico on their way to the Grand

2418
01:57:42,250 --> 01:57:39,500
Canyon they're at a river she looks

2419
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:42,260
across the river and sees a reenactment

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going on she's reading this sign you

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know in 1870 there was this going on

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across the river and she sees covered

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wagons smoke people dressed costumes the

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whole thing cooking and she goes back to

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grab her family you got to see what's

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going on over here it's really cool

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brings everybody back they're gone right

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something that was suggested it was

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something that was seen you know I I

2430
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don't know is it is it something that

2431
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was recorded in the ether write

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something that was time-stamped from the

2433
01:58:27,190 --> 01:58:22,640
past and just for an instant it was

2434
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:27,200
visible yeah it could be you know I

2435
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:31,730
think that anomalies are the unexplained

2436
01:58:37,140 --> 01:58:35,450
or the unusual they typically even

2437
01:58:39,970 --> 01:58:37,150
though I think that they are real they

2438
01:58:43,330 --> 01:58:39,980
also have an element that allows them to

2439
01:58:45,490 --> 01:58:43,340
be brushed aside by other people right

2440
01:58:48,010 --> 01:58:45,500
and I think that's really important

2441
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:48,020
because it allows that anomaly to exist

2442
01:58:53,140 --> 01:58:50,810
for that person but still also to exist

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01:58:55,420 --> 01:58:53,150
for society for other people who would

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01:58:58,090 --> 01:58:55,430
not permit that anomaly to exist because

2445
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it gives them an out right meaning their

2446
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own consciousness is not suppressing the

2447
01:59:03,850 --> 01:59:01,550
anomaly its permitting it to exist

2448
01:59:05,290 --> 01:59:03,860
because of a variety of reasons and your

2449
01:59:07,090 --> 01:59:05,300
own experience is allowed to exist

2450
01:59:10,300 --> 01:59:07,100
because of variety of reasons and

2451
01:59:12,340 --> 01:59:10,310
they're not conflicting realities let's

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take a break right here on everybody to

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concentrate on vial a Adam curry for 819

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and I want you to think

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10 K we've got a four-minute break right

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here um when we come back let's see

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what's gonna go down this is fade to

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poor mr. Brooks why fade to black

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all right welcome back

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fade to black I'm you hooked to me

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Church okay

2569
02:04:42,339 --> 02:04:39,860
our guest tonight is Adam curry we've

2570
02:04:44,279 --> 02:04:42,349
got this experiment that we're doing

2571
02:04:49,839 --> 02:04:44,289
with everybody I want you to concentrate

2572
02:04:52,270 --> 02:04:49,849
all right on vial a from for 18 for 819

2573
02:04:55,930 --> 02:04:52,280
yesterday vial a I wanted everybody to

2574
02:04:58,959 --> 02:04:55,940
concentrate on 10k I've just posted up

2575
02:05:01,149 --> 02:04:58,969
in Twitter everything that you need to

2576
02:05:03,310 --> 02:05:01,159
see that Adam just sent me which is the

2577
02:05:05,939 --> 02:05:03,320
baseline measurement you can see it

2578
02:05:09,970 --> 02:05:05,949
starts off at a 25k right there and

2579
02:05:11,890 --> 02:05:09,980
there's that and then the sample a

2580
02:05:16,060 --> 02:05:11,900
measurement you can see that there is

2581
02:05:19,419 --> 02:05:16,070
sample a and that chart is up and then

2582
02:05:23,529 --> 02:05:19,429
of course the the coolest part there is

2583
02:05:26,020 --> 02:05:23,539
the setup for the experiment over the

2584
02:05:29,459 --> 02:05:26,030
two vials in the water right there so

2585
02:05:33,790 --> 02:05:29,469
thank you for doing all of that Adam and

2586
02:05:37,330 --> 02:05:33,800
okay we went through five minutes of

2587
02:05:39,669 --> 02:05:37,340
commercials and hopefully we had

2588
02:05:43,450 --> 02:05:39,679
everybody concentrating I know that they

2589
02:05:46,060 --> 02:05:43,460
were did you are you measuring now or

2590
02:05:48,839 --> 02:05:46,070
did you already measure already measured

2591
02:05:52,330 --> 02:05:48,849
okay alright so the measurement was made

2592
02:05:54,700 --> 02:05:52,340
yesterday so we had five minutes

2593
02:05:56,379 --> 02:05:54,710
yesterday where I was expecting everyone

2594
02:05:59,410 --> 02:05:56,389
would send their intentions back in time

2595
02:06:03,490 --> 02:05:59,420
to affect the device and then I measured

2596
02:06:05,229 --> 02:06:03,500
the with the e is the impedance and so I

2597
02:06:10,839 --> 02:06:05,239
think the baseline which is that first

2598
02:06:14,620 --> 02:06:10,849
image you see at 1,000 Hertz electricity

2599
02:06:18,279 --> 02:06:14,630
it's about the impedance of about 25,000

2600
02:06:21,580 --> 02:06:18,289
mm-hmm just sample after being affected

2601
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:21,590
by the intention or whatever it was at

2602
02:06:28,540 --> 02:06:24,170
10,000 Hertz its mm meaning we saw

2603
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:28,550
greater than a 10 X naught 10k but 10 X

2604
02:06:38,540 --> 02:06:36,450
reduction in impedance which is is huge

2605
02:06:43,430 --> 02:06:38,550
it's a very very interesting and good

2606
02:06:45,740 --> 02:06:43,440
result so it would seem as though there

2607
02:06:50,030 --> 02:06:45,750
was some it would suggest some sort of

2608
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:50,040
anomalous influence that affected the

2609
02:06:56,540 --> 02:06:52,290
water in the five minutes between its

2610
02:06:58,160 --> 02:06:56,550
measurements how I mean okay so I you

2611
02:07:03,230 --> 02:06:58,170
know I get it I get it

2612
02:07:05,660 --> 02:07:03,240
but what did it that's a good question

2613
02:07:07,220 --> 02:07:05,670
I think if we understood how

2614
02:07:09,980 --> 02:07:07,230
consciousness interacts with the

2615
02:07:11,450 --> 02:07:09,990
physical world we could come up with a

2616
02:07:14,090 --> 02:07:11,460
mechanism we don't really have a

2617
02:07:15,890 --> 02:07:14,100
mechanism the best way to explain this

2618
02:07:19,100 --> 02:07:15,900
would be we know that consciousness can

2619
02:07:21,770 --> 02:07:19,110
affect the behavior of probabilistic

2620
02:07:23,930 --> 02:07:21,780
physical systems like random number

2621
02:07:26,690 --> 02:07:23,940
generators in this case the

2622
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:26,700
probabilistic physical system is a vial

2623
02:07:32,810 --> 02:07:29,370
of water and the molecules are moving

2624
02:07:34,700 --> 02:07:32,820
around randomly and the intention of all

2625
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:34,710
of the people was to make the water more

2626
02:07:42,260 --> 02:07:37,410
coherent and because it's more coherent

2627
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:42,270
it makes it more conductive to through

2628
02:07:52,880 --> 02:07:49,170
about proton what is that called anyway

2629
02:07:54,410 --> 02:07:52,890
I'll send an explanation of this this

2630
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:54,420
out but anyway it results in an

2631
02:07:58,100 --> 02:07:56,490
electrochemical change measured in the

2632
02:07:59,360 --> 02:07:58,110
reduction of impedance the increased

2633
02:08:01,400 --> 02:07:59,370
conductivity which is what you're seeing

2634
02:08:03,500 --> 02:08:01,410
here now how that works with

2635
02:08:05,420 --> 02:08:03,510
consciousness affecting physical reality

2636
02:08:08,900 --> 02:08:05,430
systems in the past we don't really know

2637
02:08:10,850 --> 02:08:08,910
other than it could be the time is kind

2638
02:08:13,340 --> 02:08:10,860
of illusory meaning you might have

2639
02:08:16,070 --> 02:08:13,350
influences from the point of view of the

2640
02:08:18,350 --> 02:08:16,080
present yesterday from the future or

2641
02:08:20,510 --> 02:08:18,360
from our present going back into the

2642
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:20,520
past now the reason why I do this

2643
02:08:25,220 --> 02:08:22,650
experiment in the first place is to get

2644
02:08:28,220 --> 02:08:25,230
people thinking that this parallel

2645
02:08:30,710 --> 02:08:28,230
worlds explanation might actually not be

2646
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:30,720
necessary and in fact you could have a

2647
02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:33,930
much more simple kind of explanation for

2648
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:35,250
how something like the Mandela effect

2649
02:08:40,940 --> 02:08:38,610
could exist by thinking of the past in

2650
02:08:42,860 --> 02:08:40,950
probabilistic terms meaning all you need

2651
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:42,870
in reality is consistent histories and

2652
02:08:47,420 --> 02:08:45,210
probable futures consistent histories

2653
02:08:48,710 --> 02:08:47,430
are perhaps fungible you can buy

2654
02:08:50,430 --> 02:08:48,720
consciousness so long and it's

2655
02:08:52,589 --> 02:08:50,440
consistent to explain the price

2656
02:08:56,540 --> 02:08:52,599
isn't that more profound than and then

2657
02:08:59,100 --> 02:08:56,550
parallel worlds or or the multiverse I

2658
02:09:02,330 --> 02:08:59,110
think it's more profound I also think it

2659
02:09:05,069 --> 02:09:02,340
is a better explanatory framework for a

2660
02:09:09,930 --> 02:09:05,079
number of anomalies that we see not

2661
02:09:12,419 --> 02:09:09,940
anomalies altering history yeah I'll

2662
02:09:15,120 --> 02:09:12,429
give you I'll give you a story that got

2663
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:15,130
me thinking along these lines and this

2664
02:09:19,410 --> 02:09:17,050
goes back about 10 years when I was in

2665
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:19,420
college I was taking a lot of creative

2666
02:09:26,490 --> 02:09:24,610
writing classes and one day after after

2667
02:09:28,919 --> 02:09:26,500
a physics class I think I was feeling

2668
02:09:32,459 --> 02:09:28,929
really creative and I walked into the

2669
02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:32,469
library and I wrote a short story just

2670
02:09:38,490 --> 02:09:34,650
kind of randomly decided to go to the

2671
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:38,500
library and write a short story I did it

2672
02:09:43,109 --> 02:09:40,570
out kept it in my notebook forgot about

2673
02:09:45,359 --> 02:09:43,119
it the next week I was in a creative

2674
02:09:48,209 --> 02:09:45,369
writing class and we were workshopping

2675
02:09:51,689 --> 02:09:48,219
our stories and I realized that I had

2676
02:09:53,220 --> 02:09:51,699
forgot the assignment I didn't I didn't

2677
02:09:56,729 --> 02:09:53,230
write a story but then I remembered that

2678
02:09:58,890 --> 02:09:56,739
a week ago for some reason I decided to

2679
02:10:00,959 --> 02:09:58,900
write this story so then I sent it I

2680
02:10:04,319 --> 02:10:00,969
tried to mentally send a message to

2681
02:10:06,629 --> 02:10:04,329
myself in the past to write that story

2682
02:10:08,910 --> 02:10:06,639
like imagine myself walking into the

2683
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:08,920
library and write that story she went

2684
02:10:15,569 --> 02:10:10,960
off input so you see where I'm going

2685
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:15,579
yes it's it makes you think right did I

2686
02:10:22,290 --> 02:10:18,010
have some sort of retro causal effect on

2687
02:10:23,339 --> 02:10:22,300
myself to create that that story so that

2688
02:10:25,950 --> 02:10:23,349
I would have it in the future

2689
02:10:27,750 --> 02:10:25,960
or was it just coincidence and I mean I

2690
02:10:29,660 --> 02:10:27,760
think that's really the question but

2691
02:10:32,220 --> 02:10:29,670
looking at it from the point of view of

2692
02:10:33,810 --> 02:10:32,230
causal symmetry and time symmetry I

2693
02:10:35,700 --> 02:10:33,820
think we have maybe a much better

2694
02:10:37,950 --> 02:10:35,710
explanatory more simple explanatory

2695
02:10:41,879 --> 02:10:37,960
framework and gazillions of universes

2696
02:10:44,879 --> 02:10:41,889
splitting off well okay let's let's

2697
02:10:51,450 --> 02:10:44,889
examine this for a second and like going

2698
02:10:56,549 --> 02:10:51,460
back to the movie Shazam right that it

2699
02:10:59,430 --> 02:10:56,559
didn't it didn't exist but the power of

2700
02:11:03,810 --> 02:10:59,440
suggestion and everybody getting on this

2701
02:11:08,189 --> 02:11:03,820
thought started to manifest the path

2702
02:11:10,620 --> 02:11:08,199
and created Shazam in the past when they

2703
02:11:15,300 --> 02:11:10,630
didn't exist that's what you're

2704
02:11:17,910 --> 02:11:15,310
suggesting right way either affected the

2705
02:11:19,140 --> 02:11:17,920
movie existing or not existing or and

2706
02:11:22,020 --> 02:11:19,150
this is a wholly different way of

2707
02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:22,030
looking at the Mandela effect we could

2708
02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:24,730
have influenced our own memories to

2709
02:11:30,390 --> 02:11:27,280
misremember something in order to create

2710
02:11:32,819 --> 02:11:30,400
the meaningful phenomena of Mandela

2711
02:11:35,430 --> 02:11:32,829
effect so you would never really know

2712
02:11:37,169 --> 02:11:35,440
and this meaningfulness is really

2713
02:11:39,419 --> 02:11:37,179
important to understand when it when it

2714
02:11:41,189 --> 02:11:39,429
comes to mind a matter of facts or

2715
02:11:43,979 --> 02:11:41,199
anomalies in general and that's the

2716
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:43,989
unusual things seem to happen around the

2717
02:11:49,589 --> 02:11:46,570
meaningfulness so for me with that story

2718
02:11:52,410 --> 02:11:49,599
it was meaningful for me to have a to

2719
02:11:54,510 --> 02:11:52,420
not miss the assignment right for many

2720
02:11:57,930 --> 02:11:54,520
of us it's perhaps meaningful to have

2721
02:11:59,580 --> 02:11:57,940
some actual scientific verification you

2722
02:12:03,000 --> 02:11:59,590
may or may not believe it into something

2723
02:12:04,830 --> 02:12:03,010
like affecting the past and from that

2724
02:12:07,979 --> 02:12:04,840
point of view if you expand it further

2725
02:12:09,689 --> 02:12:07,989
you have to look at the the purpose of

2726
02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:09,699
something like the Mandela effect in

2727
02:12:14,970 --> 02:12:12,880
society is it that we are actually

2728
02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:14,980
running in different timelines or

2729
02:12:18,330 --> 02:12:16,480
affecting the past for reasons we can't

2730
02:12:20,970 --> 02:12:18,340
explain or isn't the Mandela effect

2731
02:12:23,790 --> 02:12:20,980
something that we're creating in order

2732
02:12:25,770 --> 02:12:23,800
to create meaningfulness around

2733
02:12:28,260 --> 02:12:25,780
questions of our very existence around

2734
02:12:29,100 --> 02:12:28,270
what is time who are we is the past

2735
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:29,110
fungible

2736
02:12:32,609 --> 02:12:30,400
can we look at the world in a different

2737
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:32,619
way and that's kind of the

2738
02:12:37,140 --> 02:12:34,810
meaningfulness or some philosophers call

2739
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:37,150
it t lee ology or the t illogical poll

2740
02:12:41,370 --> 02:12:39,010
that could be creating something like

2741
02:12:43,050 --> 02:12:41,380
the Mandela effect and it's showing up

2742
02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:43,060
in these different in these different

2743
02:12:49,530 --> 02:12:48,010
ways this is this was just sent in two

2744
02:12:52,439 --> 02:12:49,540
minutes ago I want to read this to you

2745
02:12:53,939 --> 02:12:52,449
this is from our Warren Harris on

2746
02:12:57,689 --> 02:12:53,949
Twitter says I will never forget

2747
02:13:00,899 --> 02:12:57,699
arriving at work one hour before I left

2748
02:13:03,419 --> 02:13:00,909
for work I had a subway transfer from

2749
02:13:05,700 --> 02:13:03,429
the future and I had tried calling

2750
02:13:08,129 --> 02:13:05,710
myself at home because my other self

2751
02:13:10,050 --> 02:13:08,139
would have still been there I didn't

2752
02:13:13,010 --> 02:13:10,060
connect with myself but for a moment

2753
02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:13,020
there were two of me

2754
02:13:19,460 --> 02:13:16,290
mmm that's wild

2755
02:13:23,390 --> 02:13:19,470
yeah that's real wild that's real wild

2756
02:13:26,330 --> 02:13:23,400
that's real that's a real good eye you

2757
02:13:29,090 --> 02:13:26,340
know with all of my sensational memories

2758
02:13:31,850 --> 02:13:29,100
and thoughts and experiences that I've

2759
02:13:34,910 --> 02:13:31,860
shared on the air and I'm asking people

2760
02:13:37,610 --> 02:13:34,920
to just at least listen to what I have

2761
02:13:39,860 --> 02:13:37,620
to say right and I read something like

2762
02:13:42,200 --> 02:13:39,870
that I just have to go okay all right

2763
02:13:44,900 --> 02:13:42,210
okay could could have happened I'm never

2764
02:13:48,430 --> 02:13:44,910
gonna dismiss anything because I've gone

2765
02:13:51,110 --> 02:13:48,440
way further than this like my my

2766
02:14:00,410 --> 02:13:51,120
Hindenburg thing over the apartment I'm

2767
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:00,420
really experienced was my experience and

2768
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:02,010
then doing the research and finding out

2769
02:14:06,890 --> 02:14:04,650
that there was nothing in the air or you

2770
02:14:09,740 --> 02:14:06,900
know at that point you know what 45

2771
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:09,750
years or whatever that was 35 years that

2772
02:14:16,190 --> 02:14:14,010
there had been nothing then that puts me

2773
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:16,200
in a weird position and I I don't care

2774
02:14:23,720 --> 02:14:19,530
Adam what people think I'd rather share

2775
02:14:25,640 --> 02:14:23,730
the experience so other people can you

2776
02:14:27,770 --> 02:14:25,650
know possibly search their memories for

2777
02:14:32,510 --> 02:14:27,780
something similar and we can share those

2778
02:14:34,760 --> 02:14:32,520
experiences and when when I do that or

2779
02:14:38,900 --> 02:14:34,770
like with you right here on the air

2780
02:14:41,690 --> 02:14:38,910
where wouldn't you want to collect that

2781
02:14:43,580 --> 02:14:41,700
data you know what I mean you get

2782
02:14:45,380 --> 02:14:43,590
everybody together and go and was there

2783
02:14:50,060 --> 02:14:45,390
something strange in your life that you

2784
02:14:51,950 --> 02:14:50,070
remember that wasn't correct right can

2785
02:14:54,050 --> 02:14:51,960
you send me that information whatever it

2786
02:14:57,140 --> 02:14:54,060
is where you were you know just

2787
02:14:59,570 --> 02:14:57,150
something that didn't fit and and just

2788
02:15:01,400 --> 02:14:59,580
go back and you probably just thought it

2789
02:15:01,940 --> 02:15:01,410
was just a memory and it was just no big

2790
02:15:03,770 --> 02:15:01,950
deal

2791
02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:03,780
but let's collect this information

2792
02:15:10,010 --> 02:15:07,610
together a lot like the Mandela effect

2793
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:10,020
that's right

2794
02:15:18,560 --> 02:15:13,370
I am very interested in how unusual

2795
02:15:20,540 --> 02:15:18,570
things become usual things and you can

2796
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:20,550
think of it entirely differently through

2797
02:15:24,630 --> 02:15:23,170
the experiment that we just did

2798
02:15:29,370 --> 02:15:24,640
and through many of the comments made

2799
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:29,380
today for example looking at UFOs it's

2800
02:15:34,110 --> 02:15:31,770
pretty wild for somebody to see

2801
02:15:36,300 --> 02:15:34,120
unexplained lights or craft or something

2802
02:15:38,370 --> 02:15:36,310
like that from the point of view of

2803
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:38,380
consensus reality meaning the like the

2804
02:15:44,850 --> 02:15:42,130
normies right so day to day life but so

2805
02:15:47,190 --> 02:15:44,860
many people see them but just crazy

2806
02:15:49,890 --> 02:15:47,200
numbers of people see them and I think

2807
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:49,900
that that partly has been due to the

2808
02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:52,090
fact that it's okay for people to

2809
02:15:55,950 --> 02:15:53,650
experience something like seeing an

2810
02:15:58,260 --> 02:15:55,960
unusual craft because the rest of

2811
02:16:01,380 --> 02:15:58,270
consensus reality meaning that all of

2812
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:01,390
the cumulative consciousnesses permit

2813
02:16:07,710 --> 02:16:05,110
that phenomena to exist because they

2814
02:16:11,190 --> 02:16:07,720
have outs meaning they can say things

2815
02:16:13,890 --> 02:16:11,200
like oh well you're crazy or oh it was

2816
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:13,900
just headlights or swamp gas or weather

2817
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:16,210
balloons or a myriad of other things

2818
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:18,490
that allow them to dismiss and hand-wave

2819
02:16:23,220 --> 02:16:20,170
that phenomena which have a growing

2820
02:16:25,190 --> 02:16:23,230
number of people it's very very real and

2821
02:16:29,700 --> 02:16:25,200
I think that it is actually real right

2822
02:16:33,060 --> 02:16:29,710
and the the question of UFOs is I think

2823
02:16:36,180 --> 02:16:33,070
one I think what we're seeing with UFOs

2824
02:16:38,100 --> 02:16:36,190
that start it's no it's it's moving away

2825
02:16:40,490 --> 02:16:38,110
from the realm of anomaly and into

2826
02:16:44,220 --> 02:16:40,500
something that is really a feature of

2827
02:16:46,140 --> 02:16:44,230
our consensus reality right sort of our

2828
02:16:48,209 --> 02:16:46,150
world and that's really going to change

2829
02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:48,219
a lot of stuff and because it's going to

2830
02:16:54,110 --> 02:16:49,570
change a lot of stuff you have a lot of

2831
02:16:55,860 --> 02:16:54,120
this poll kind of from a future a future

2832
02:16:57,750 --> 02:16:55,870
probability that's creating the

2833
02:16:59,370 --> 02:16:57,760
consistent history through the present

2834
02:17:01,770 --> 02:16:59,380
to explain how we got there

2835
02:17:06,410 --> 02:17:01,780
once something like disclosure or

2836
02:17:10,950 --> 02:17:06,420
whatever might happen it does I remember

2837
02:17:14,400 --> 02:17:10,960
you and I were sitting together in the

2838
02:17:18,270 --> 02:17:14,410
front row somewhere and we were watching

2839
02:17:23,310 --> 02:17:18,280
videos on a big screen and and we were

2840
02:17:25,410 --> 02:17:23,320
commenting where was that at I think

2841
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:25,420
that would have been in San Francisco

2842
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:28,090
San Francisco right dr. Greer's right

2843
02:17:34,050 --> 02:17:31,210
right right okay okay so you and I and

2844
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:34,060
the reason why I bring it up is you and

2845
02:17:38,820 --> 02:17:36,250
I were laughing and giggling and

2846
02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:38,830
Manning like little kids because we were

2847
02:17:43,140 --> 02:17:40,450
seeing stuff that was pretty sensational

2848
02:17:46,410 --> 02:17:43,150
and and I only bring it up because your

2849
02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:46,420
interest is as genuine as mine right and

2850
02:17:56,009 --> 02:17:50,650
and I can't I think we stole those seats

2851
02:17:58,259 --> 02:17:56,019
actually okay so anyway so we're sitting

2852
02:17:59,610 --> 02:17:58,269
in and the screen is like two feet in

2853
02:18:02,129 --> 02:17:59,620
front of us remember that was big

2854
02:18:04,470 --> 02:18:02,139
theater screen and we were watching some

2855
02:18:07,320 --> 02:18:04,480
pretty sensational stuff and your

2856
02:18:09,810 --> 02:18:07,330
interest is genuine so I have to ask you

2857
02:18:11,879 --> 02:18:09,820
I didn't ask you then have you seen

2858
02:18:13,440 --> 02:18:11,889
anything like what we were watching on

2859
02:18:14,970 --> 02:18:13,450
the screen that day because that stuff

2860
02:18:16,890 --> 02:18:14,980
was pretty that what stuff was pretty

2861
02:18:20,339 --> 02:18:16,900
amazing it's stuff that Greer's never

2862
02:18:22,950 --> 02:18:20,349
shown before or sent we saw some pretty

2863
02:18:25,259 --> 02:18:22,960
incredible stuff have you seen anything

2864
02:18:28,680 --> 02:18:25,269
like that yourself you know

2865
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:28,690
unfortunately I haven't I've seen I've

2866
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:32,010
seen strange lights in the sky on a ce-5

2867
02:18:38,400 --> 02:18:35,410
with and I've seen strange lights in the

2868
02:18:42,570 --> 02:18:38,410
sky through night-vision goggles but

2869
02:18:45,209 --> 02:18:42,580
nothing like what dr. Greer showed is

2870
02:18:48,660 --> 02:18:45,219
that is that is that a paradigm shift

2871
02:18:50,070 --> 02:18:48,670
for you if you you know you know what I

2872
02:18:52,020 --> 02:18:50,080
mean not and I understand the

2873
02:18:54,270 --> 02:18:52,030
night-vision goggles I sell them you

2874
02:18:56,160 --> 02:18:54,280
know I've got I've got them and I and I

2875
02:19:00,720 --> 02:18:56,170
have my own model right the Jimmy turns

2876
02:19:03,180 --> 02:19:00,730
model I had so I'm fully invested in in

2877
02:19:06,209 --> 02:19:03,190
what night-vision goggles can bring I

2878
02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:06,219
mean it is just so much fun to do but

2879
02:19:10,140 --> 02:19:08,080
it's something else altogether when you

2880
02:19:11,549 --> 02:19:10,150
see something with your eyeballs right

2881
02:19:13,980 --> 02:19:11,559
and it's right there in front of you

2882
02:19:16,290 --> 02:19:13,990
would that be a paradigm shift is that a

2883
02:19:16,610 --> 02:19:16,300
life changing event or do you even need

2884
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:16,620
it

2885
02:19:22,110 --> 02:19:20,170
yeah I'm not your average like sample

2886
02:19:24,540 --> 02:19:22,120
human so it wasn't really a

2887
02:19:27,540 --> 02:19:24,550
life-changing event for me but I can see

2888
02:19:29,820 --> 02:19:27,550
how it would be for many because if you

2889
02:19:32,400 --> 02:19:29,830
see that kind of stuff you know seeing

2890
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:32,410
it with your own eyes it's very easy to

2891
02:19:36,919 --> 02:19:33,610
do away with all the counter

2892
02:19:39,750 --> 02:19:36,929
explanations you know that's no plane

2893
02:19:42,780 --> 02:19:39,760
that's no satellite right right right

2894
02:19:47,339 --> 02:19:42,790
all right no way yeah yeah I've had so

2895
02:19:49,590 --> 02:19:47,349
many sightings right and most of them at

2896
02:19:50,011 --> 02:19:49,600
night about a couple of daytime but I

2897
02:20:00,301 --> 02:19:50,021
had

2898
02:20:03,180 --> 02:20:00,311
daytime crazy insane real UFO and this

2899
02:20:05,761 --> 02:20:03,190
was with about I'm gonna say about 20

2900
02:20:08,671 --> 02:20:05,771
people were with me were up at East SETI

2901
02:20:10,140 --> 02:20:08,681
of all places right as he said but it

2902
02:20:14,430 --> 02:20:10,150
wasn't at night it was like 3 o'clock in

2903
02:20:16,500 --> 02:20:14,440
the afternoon and daytime and I don't

2904
02:20:21,740 --> 02:20:16,510
have any other way to explain it but

2905
02:20:27,360 --> 02:20:21,750
like it was like a 400 foot tall black

2906
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:27,370
beer-can vertical right and I just

2907
02:20:34,381 --> 02:20:31,120
visualize that right a cylinder but but

2908
02:20:37,620 --> 02:20:34,391
vertical not horizontal vertical and it

2909
02:20:40,740 --> 02:20:37,630
was spinning and it had the silver round

2910
02:20:43,171 --> 02:20:40,750
circle on it that was huge so if this

2911
02:20:46,770 --> 02:20:43,181
thing is 400 feet tall you know the

2912
02:20:47,310 --> 02:20:46,780
circle is you know a hundred or 200 feet

2913
02:20:51,060 --> 02:20:47,320
in diameter

2914
02:20:53,370 --> 02:20:51,070
and it is spinning it's like a logo but

2915
02:20:56,131 --> 02:20:53,380
it wasn't right but anyway imagine that

2916
02:20:59,341 --> 02:20:56,141
right like a black beer can spinning

2917
02:21:02,900 --> 02:20:59,351
pretty fast and and moving from left to

2918
02:21:07,530 --> 02:21:02,910
right across the sky and it lasted about

2919
02:21:09,690 --> 02:21:07,540
15 seconds and then disappeared and I

2920
02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:09,700
didn't get to see it disappear everybody

2921
02:21:15,870 --> 02:21:13,210
else did I was going between binoculars

2922
02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:15,880
and my eyeballs right you know getting

2923
02:21:20,490 --> 02:21:18,370
off of the binoculars and looking at it

2924
02:21:23,690 --> 02:21:20,500
and when I went back to the binoculars

2925
02:21:26,961 --> 02:21:23,700
it was gone so I didn't see it disappear

2926
02:21:31,440 --> 02:21:26,971
everybody else saw it but that back to

2927
02:21:33,540 --> 02:21:31,450
that kind of situation where it's not a

2928
02:21:36,870 --> 02:21:33,550
nighttime thing it's not night vision it

2929
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:36,880
was the Holy Grail was like that just as

2930
02:21:41,011 --> 02:21:38,290
I described it to you

2931
02:21:42,570 --> 02:21:41,021
and I can't I can't I can't say what

2932
02:21:47,341 --> 02:21:42,580
that was I have no idea

2933
02:21:49,200 --> 02:21:47,351
you know us them III don't know and that

2934
02:21:51,450 --> 02:21:49,210
that was changing that was life-changing

2935
02:21:54,480 --> 02:21:51,460
for me that was something that I still

2936
02:21:57,390 --> 02:21:54,490
cannot get out of my mind thank goodness

2937
02:21:59,790 --> 02:21:57,400
we had witnesses that were there and I

2938
02:22:03,630 --> 02:21:59,800
even have a really cool video you know

2939
02:22:07,710 --> 02:22:03,640
what check this out uh you know what I

2940
02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:07,720
just got this video let me find it I

2941
02:22:14,660 --> 02:22:11,170
have the video here believe it or not of

2942
02:22:15,870 --> 02:22:14,670
the moment that the sighting happened

2943
02:22:19,620 --> 02:22:15,880
okay

2944
02:22:26,660 --> 02:22:19,630
and what's funny about the video as I as

2945
02:22:32,149 --> 02:22:26,670
I pull it up is you don't see the object

2946
02:22:35,820 --> 02:22:32,159
okay what you hear is my reaction

2947
02:22:37,679 --> 02:22:35,830
telling everybody what just happened and

2948
02:22:41,070 --> 02:22:37,689
to shoot video right I'm telling

2949
02:22:43,979 --> 02:22:41,080
everybody to shoot video shoot video

2950
02:22:46,890 --> 02:22:43,989
shoot video and it's it's pretty

2951
02:22:51,469 --> 02:22:46,900
incredible let me pull it up here here

2952
02:22:54,809 --> 02:22:53,099
stay with me

2953
02:22:59,790 --> 02:22:54,819
I've got so many things on my desktop

2954
02:23:03,510 --> 02:22:59,800
here but I am going to lay this you know

2955
02:23:07,410 --> 02:23:03,520
what let me do this search here and so

2956
02:23:11,160 --> 02:23:07,420
when I had forgotten about here it is I

2957
02:23:12,689 --> 02:23:11,170
had forgotten about what I had said but

2958
02:23:19,920 --> 02:23:12,699
here it is I'm gonna play it right now

2959
02:23:23,969 --> 02:23:19,930
this is my reaction tell me somebody

2960
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:23,979
took a picture I swear to God I will

2961
02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:29,170
shoot everybody here oh no there it is

2962
02:23:37,290 --> 02:23:42,150
that was shimmery that was nice

2963
02:23:48,690 --> 02:23:46,830
I was huge okay who shot it that was the

2964
02:23:50,990 --> 02:23:48,700
moment that that thing happened

2965
02:23:54,780 --> 02:23:51,000
isn't that crazy that somebody shot a

2966
02:23:58,830 --> 02:23:54,790
cellphone video that was Lucinda yeah

2967
02:24:01,590 --> 02:23:58,840
yeah everybody that's what kind of dick

2968
02:24:06,690 --> 02:24:01,600
I am in public I will shoot everybody

2969
02:24:08,670 --> 02:24:06,700
here but yeah how crazy is that I'm

2970
02:24:10,650 --> 02:24:08,680
crazy and you can hear the crowd around

2971
02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:10,660
to be right and did you hear somebody

2972
02:24:15,810 --> 02:24:13,570
else say it was shimmering yeah yeah

2973
02:24:19,860 --> 02:24:15,820
here I'll play the guy tell me somebody

2974
02:24:28,500 --> 02:24:19,870
took a picture I swear to God I will

2975
02:24:42,660 --> 02:24:28,510
shoot everybody right then I was back on

2976
02:24:45,960 --> 02:24:42,670
the binoculars so that's it that's

2977
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:45,970
that's the video clip but that's the

2978
02:24:51,060 --> 02:24:49,450
moment right it really happened it was

2979
02:24:56,130 --> 02:24:51,070
ginormous

2980
02:24:58,650 --> 02:24:56,140
everybody and and I walked back to the

2981
02:25:00,990 --> 02:24:58,660
table you know to get back on the

2982
02:25:03,179 --> 02:25:01,000
binoculars you know you know everybody

2983
02:25:05,850 --> 02:25:03,189
Kony adds black it's got a silver thing

2984
02:25:08,969 --> 02:25:05,860
it's spinning and then that you know

2985
02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:08,979
that video was after I jumped up after

2986
02:25:14,389 --> 02:25:10,810
it disappeared and I said did somebody

2987
02:25:16,980 --> 02:25:14,399
you know tell me somebody shot it and

2988
02:25:19,950 --> 02:25:16,990
yeah pretty incredible pretty incredible

2989
02:25:22,130 --> 02:25:19,960
I actually have a JPEG here I should

2990
02:25:25,980 --> 02:25:22,140
post this I never did this before

2991
02:25:27,719 --> 02:25:25,990
yeah I have a JPEG here I'll post this

2992
02:25:29,370 --> 02:25:27,729
up too as well all right let's take a

2993
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break you want to take some phone calls

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when we come back sure let's do that our

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guest tonight is Adam curry the Mandela

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effect let's take a quick break right

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here this is fade to black I'm your host

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Jimmy Church and seven four seven two

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all right welcome back fade to black

3093
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coming over to me Church I guess tonight

3094
02:30:58,961 --> 02:30:56,801
Adam Curry just did that amazing test

3095
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experiment live on the air that was uh

3096
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that was a lot of fun we got everything

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posted up the results they're all up

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there in Twitter I've opened up the

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3100
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eight two zero five one and I do I would

3101
02:31:21,551 --> 02:31:18,081
like to hear your Mandela effect a story

3102
02:31:26,381 --> 02:31:21,561
if you've got one or experience but also

3103
02:31:31,031 --> 02:31:26,391
I would like I would like Jason to call

3104
02:31:35,230 --> 02:31:31,041
in about the movie Shazam so Jason give

3105
02:31:38,831 --> 02:31:35,240
us a call and I'll get you right in the

3106
02:31:40,690 --> 02:31:38,841
phone queue okay I do I do want to hear

3107
02:31:42,940 --> 02:31:40,700
about this and and you've got to shoot

3108
02:31:45,071 --> 02:31:42,950
that video with that Adam you want to

3109
02:31:47,440 --> 02:31:45,081
take some phone calls yeah let's do it

3110
02:31:49,480 --> 02:31:47,450
let's do it let's go right now

3111
02:31:59,470 --> 02:31:49,490
hi you're live on fade to black who's

3112
02:32:01,751 --> 02:31:59,480
calling you're live don't even tell me

3113
02:32:15,781 --> 02:32:01,761
there's some issues here you're live

3114
02:32:26,350 --> 02:32:18,791
hey Mike in Albany Oregon how are you

3115
02:32:28,951 --> 02:32:26,360
speak up okay yeah take me off speaker

3116
02:32:33,701 --> 02:32:28,961
that's the issue but remember Michael

3117
02:32:36,401 --> 02:32:33,711
we're live on the air so okay so I've

3118
02:32:38,890 --> 02:32:36,411
got a situation happened I'm not really

3119
02:32:42,100 --> 02:32:38,900
sure if it's Mandela related or what the

3120
02:32:43,571 --> 02:32:42,110
heck it was but my girlfriend and I have

3121
02:32:44,980 --> 02:32:43,581
been going to the local farmers market

3122
02:32:47,321 --> 02:32:44,990
every year

3123
02:32:50,261 --> 02:32:47,331
opening day we're always there right

3124
02:32:53,011 --> 02:32:50,271
well we're we're driving up to it and

3125
02:32:55,451 --> 02:32:53,021
it's gonna rain in a little bit and we

3126
02:32:56,711 --> 02:32:55,461
on the right on the side of the street

3127
02:32:58,421 --> 02:32:56,721
where it's that we look over and there's

3128
02:33:00,791 --> 02:32:58,431
nothing there is I mean it's it's just

3129
02:33:02,171 --> 02:33:00,801
an empty parking lot so of course you

3130
02:33:03,761 --> 02:33:02,181
know we think these

3131
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:03,771
decided to cancel it because of the rain

3132
02:33:09,401 --> 02:33:07,610
and when we get home and she's looking

3133
02:33:13,270 --> 02:33:09,411
on Facebook and they're showing all

3134
02:33:14,861 --> 02:33:13,280
these people there and serving cupcakes

3135
02:33:18,991 --> 02:33:14,871
and all this other kind of things there

3136
02:33:21,310 --> 02:33:19,001
and so of course I assumed that it was

3137
02:33:23,171 --> 02:33:21,320
pictures from last year but then when we

3138
02:33:26,230 --> 02:33:23,181
got to talking to him the next time I

3139
02:33:27,671 --> 02:33:26,240
went asked him I said well where were

3140
02:33:31,331 --> 02:33:27,681
you guys last weekend I said well we're

3141
02:33:33,581 --> 02:33:31,341
right here and she a beautiful sunny day

3142
02:33:35,261 --> 02:33:33,591
we had cupcakes we had all the same

3143
02:33:37,690 --> 02:33:35,271
vendors everything everybody was here

3144
02:33:39,611 --> 02:33:37,700
but we were right there and it wasn't

3145
02:33:42,730 --> 02:33:39,621
there for us it was an empty parking lot

3146
02:33:45,640 --> 02:33:42,740
and that's exactly yeah and and Adam

3147
02:33:48,430 --> 02:33:45,650
thank you for the phone call Mike Adam

3148
02:33:52,321 --> 02:33:48,440
when you would Adam when you hear

3149
02:33:55,331 --> 02:33:52,331
something like that wasn't what what

3150
02:33:58,261 --> 02:33:55,341
you're a man of science right how do you

3151
02:34:04,020 --> 02:34:00,701
they got me there but you know one thing

3152
02:34:06,821 --> 02:34:04,030
I think is interesting is these types of

3153
02:34:10,651 --> 02:34:06,831
reality shifting experiences tend to me

3154
02:34:14,291 --> 02:34:10,661
to be more profound and less explainable

3155
02:34:15,581 --> 02:34:14,301
the fewer people are involved you know

3156
02:34:18,881 --> 02:34:15,591
we talk about Mandela effects and these

3157
02:34:21,491 --> 02:34:18,891
are these are collective miss

3158
02:34:24,720 --> 02:34:21,501
remembrances or collective experiences

3159
02:34:27,640 --> 02:34:24,730
of a different timeline or reality right

3160
02:34:30,071 --> 02:34:27,650
but I think they tend to pale in

3161
02:34:33,371 --> 02:34:30,081
comparison to some of the first-person

3162
02:34:35,980 --> 02:34:33,381
experiences that one or maybe two people

3163
02:34:37,451 --> 02:34:35,990
have on their own and to me I think

3164
02:34:39,071 --> 02:34:37,461
that's significant and related to what

3165
02:34:43,081 --> 02:34:39,081
we were talking about before or it's

3166
02:34:45,461 --> 02:34:43,091
easier to experience unexplained

3167
02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:45,471
unconventional unlikely things if you

3168
02:34:50,051 --> 02:34:47,690
are if it's not a shared experience

3169
02:34:52,600 --> 02:34:50,061
among many many other people right what

3170
02:34:54,940 --> 02:34:52,610
you know you go to you know you go to

3171
02:34:57,491 --> 02:34:54,950
the flea market and it's an empty lot

3172
02:35:00,100 --> 02:34:57,501
and you get home and everybody's

3173
02:35:03,611 --> 02:35:00,110
partying there and right posting

3174
02:35:05,230 --> 02:35:03,621
pictures and you know that's that's

3175
02:35:06,581 --> 02:35:05,240
that's pretty bizarre that's pretty

3176
02:35:10,301 --> 02:35:06,591
bizarre I've had a couple of experiences

3177
02:35:12,640 --> 02:35:10,311
very similar to that and and again you

3178
02:35:13,599 --> 02:35:12,650
know singular you know with a few people

3179
02:35:15,460 --> 02:35:13,609
as opposed

3180
02:35:16,989 --> 02:35:15,470
to millions let's come back to the

3181
02:35:21,460 --> 02:35:16,999
phones hi live I'm fade to black who's

3182
02:35:23,170 --> 02:35:21,470
calling it is like Felicia and how's it

3183
02:35:31,090 --> 02:35:23,180
going hi Mike from Michigan

3184
02:35:34,899 --> 02:35:31,100
say hi to Adam hey Mike good what have

3185
02:35:37,409 --> 02:35:34,909
you got tonight Mike I want to tell you

3186
02:35:52,439 --> 02:35:37,419
guys what I think is happening with the

3187
02:35:57,699 --> 02:35:52,449
window outside okay what's happening yep

3188
02:35:58,510 --> 02:35:57,709
well he went on the incoming TV

3189
02:36:02,979 --> 02:35:58,520
broadcast

3190
02:36:07,319 --> 02:36:02,989
back in the 50s it's on YouTube what he

3191
02:36:10,119 --> 02:36:07,329
said he was doing he was taking and

3192
02:36:14,170 --> 02:36:10,129
coupling in to the Earth's magnetic

3193
02:36:18,729 --> 02:36:14,180
field what he was doing he was pulling

3194
02:36:23,319 --> 02:36:18,739
back old TV and radio broadcast from

3195
02:36:26,290 --> 02:36:23,329
seven years prior yes yeah it's a it's a

3196
02:36:28,960 --> 02:36:26,300
it's an amazing interview Adam have you

3197
02:36:36,250 --> 02:36:28,970
seen the I think that interview actually

3198
02:36:39,069 --> 02:36:36,260
was 1964 but it's it's George Van Tassel

3199
02:36:41,590 --> 02:36:39,079
and he's talking for about it's about a

3200
02:36:44,380 --> 02:36:41,600
half-hour interview and in the interview

3201
02:36:46,960 --> 02:36:44,390
he says and this is what is fascinating

3202
02:36:51,099 --> 02:36:46,970
especially for you Adam you know you

3203
02:36:58,979 --> 02:36:51,109
being California bound in Santa Monica

3204
02:37:04,149 --> 02:36:58,989
he built a laboratory that was able to

3205
02:37:05,159 --> 02:37:04,159
record and see events seven years in the

3206
02:37:08,619 --> 02:37:05,169
past

3207
02:37:11,679 --> 02:37:08,629
okay and that it was out there you know

3208
02:37:15,340 --> 02:37:11,689
it was electrical and that he was given

3209
02:37:16,479 --> 02:37:15,350
the formula from ET that was the other

3210
02:37:19,059 --> 02:37:16,489
thing that was a pretty interesting

3211
02:37:21,519 --> 02:37:19,069
about it and that he could go and view

3212
02:37:24,279 --> 02:37:21,529
this he gave the address in the street

3213
02:37:25,801 --> 02:37:24,289
in Santa Monica where this laboratory

3214
02:37:28,290 --> 02:37:25,811
was built

3215
02:37:29,400 --> 02:37:28,300
it's a this is a historical document

3216
02:37:31,230 --> 02:37:29,410
it's something that you should go back

3217
02:37:34,921 --> 02:37:31,240
and watch this video yourself if you

3218
02:37:37,171 --> 02:37:34,931
haven't seen it I haven't seen it but I

3219
02:37:38,761 --> 02:37:37,181
will check it out that sounds amazing

3220
02:37:41,690 --> 02:37:38,771
yeah it is it's pretty cool it's pretty

3221
02:37:44,190 --> 02:37:41,700
cool thank you for the phone call Mike

3222
02:37:50,070 --> 02:37:44,200
hey could you pass my number long to

3223
02:37:53,040 --> 02:37:50,080
Adam okay I will do that I have it here

3224
02:37:53,551 --> 02:37:53,050
thank you so much thanks yeah thank you

3225
02:37:57,120 --> 02:37:53,561
Mike

3226
02:37:59,610 --> 02:37:57,130
let's let's keep this going here

3227
02:38:02,640 --> 02:37:59,620
stay with me Adam I've got to bounce a

3228
02:38:06,631 --> 02:38:02,650
couple of mouse clicks around here there

3229
02:38:07,980 --> 02:38:06,641
we go all right let's go here next hi

3230
02:38:14,881 --> 02:38:07,990
you're live on fade to black who's

3231
02:38:16,740 --> 02:38:14,891
calling Andre hey Andre how are you I'm

3232
02:38:20,881 --> 02:38:16,750
great how are you I'm doing good man

3233
02:38:23,251 --> 02:38:20,891
it's Adam curry say hi to Adam hey Adam

3234
02:38:27,180 --> 02:38:23,261
how's it going man hey Andre

3235
02:38:29,461 --> 02:38:27,190
what's on your mind all right so I have

3236
02:38:32,570 --> 02:38:29,471
a really interesting Dell effect that

3237
02:38:38,220 --> 02:38:32,580
actually affected my birth certificate

3238
02:38:42,060 --> 02:38:38,230
okay what happened well I remember when

3239
02:38:44,910 --> 02:38:42,070
our firm on my mother Rhodes and telling

3240
02:38:47,850 --> 02:38:44,920
me this whenever she had gone through

3241
02:38:50,520 --> 02:38:47,860
her document she found my birth

3242
02:38:55,530 --> 02:38:50,530
certificate and she was looking at she

3243
02:38:58,801 --> 02:38:55,540
had noticed that neither her name or my

3244
02:39:01,950 --> 02:38:58,811
father's name was on it and it's really

3245
02:39:06,120 --> 02:39:01,960
interesting because she went into detail

3246
02:39:09,830 --> 02:39:06,130
about everything and specifically

3247
02:39:13,251 --> 02:39:09,840
remembered seung-wan birth certificate

3248
02:39:16,350 --> 02:39:13,261
and do you still have it

3249
02:39:20,070 --> 02:39:16,360
actually I do it's really interesting I

3250
02:39:23,341 --> 02:39:20,080
looked at it and you know I put this one

3251
02:39:28,501 --> 02:39:23,351
Twitter about it sort of being like the

3252
02:39:34,020 --> 02:39:28,511
same thing that happened in Isaiah 1116

3253
02:39:39,631 --> 02:39:34,030
wait no 11:6 where the actual text to

3254
02:39:44,400 --> 02:39:39,641
change from the line shall bow with the

3255
02:39:48,270 --> 02:39:44,410
Wham and it had a change to the wolf

3256
02:39:50,310 --> 02:39:48,280
felt the wolf shall dwell with glam okay

3257
02:39:53,820 --> 02:39:50,320
well I've heard that the same thing okay

3258
02:39:55,230 --> 02:39:53,830
and what what explanation do you have

3259
02:40:00,060 --> 02:39:55,240
for this I mean what are you suggesting

3260
02:40:02,310 --> 02:40:00,070
here um I don't know there's all kinds

3261
02:40:06,390 --> 02:40:02,320
of theories I've heard things about CERN

3262
02:40:08,370 --> 02:40:06,400
I've heard things about solar ascension

3263
02:40:13,310 --> 02:40:08,380
with something with our Sun entering a

3264
02:40:18,320 --> 02:40:13,320
new phase like the thirteenth zodiac for

3265
02:40:22,770 --> 02:40:18,330
Orphic yes and I've also heard of that

3266
02:40:24,780 --> 02:40:22,780
I'm travelling theory along with a John

3267
02:40:27,950 --> 02:40:24,790
Tedder and everything like that as well

3268
02:40:33,171 --> 02:40:27,960
so I'm sort of confused as to like what

3269
02:40:35,430 --> 02:40:33,181
happened yeah yeah why but why you I

3270
02:40:37,860 --> 02:40:35,440
don't know that's not the only thing

3271
02:40:41,461 --> 02:40:37,870
that had happened either well I'm sure

3272
02:40:43,610 --> 02:40:41,471
there's nothing that happened was my

3273
02:40:48,001 --> 02:40:43,620
hair had changed from being like a

3274
02:40:50,131 --> 02:40:48,011
bright glowing to being brown and my

3275
02:40:54,091 --> 02:40:50,141
eyes had changed twice they went from

3276
02:40:56,400 --> 02:40:54,101
like an emerald green to blue to being

3277
02:40:58,801 --> 02:40:56,410
like this hazel color now but whose

3278
02:41:00,801 --> 02:40:58,811
names were on the birth certificate did

3279
02:41:05,791 --> 02:41:00,811
your mom know who they were

3280
02:41:09,270 --> 02:41:05,801
yes her name and my father's name

3281
02:41:13,740 --> 02:41:09,280
her name was Cara attic and my father's

3282
02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:13,750
name was Kenneth Wagner I thought you

3283
02:41:19,230 --> 02:41:16,000
said their names weren't on the birth

3284
02:41:23,160 --> 02:41:19,240
certificate it's not on anymore

3285
02:41:27,060 --> 02:41:23,170
oh it's changed since then yeah it's

3286
02:41:30,720 --> 02:41:27,070
like completely gone okay yeah that's

3287
02:41:33,990 --> 02:41:30,730
that's bizarre or world stuff there yeah

3288
02:41:36,870 --> 02:41:34,000
and this is the original yeah yeah you

3289
02:41:39,001 --> 02:41:36,880
know the original one I never had a copy

3290
02:41:41,011 --> 02:41:39,011
of it or not well whose names are on the

3291
02:41:45,360 --> 02:41:41,021
birthday whose names are on the birth

3292
02:41:49,470 --> 02:41:45,370
certificate now nothing there bleh it's

3293
02:41:53,989 --> 02:41:49,480
blank yeah well the only name that one

3294
02:41:56,340 --> 02:41:53,999
is mine and then like the regular

3295
02:41:58,939 --> 02:41:56,350
documentation he would see for a citizen

3296
02:42:02,960 --> 02:41:58,949
yeah that's pretty trippy and what about

3297
02:42:05,040 --> 02:42:02,970
ordering a duplicate from the County I

3298
02:42:07,410 --> 02:42:05,050
don't know if I would work her a

3299
02:42:11,279 --> 02:42:07,420
duplicate if I would end up getting like

3300
02:42:14,939 --> 02:42:11,289
the order one one split no order Mouse

3301
02:42:15,540 --> 02:42:14,949
yeah or not just order one but I'm carry

3302
02:42:17,880 --> 02:42:15,550
it does

3303
02:42:21,389 --> 02:42:17,890
yeah cost you ten bucks yeah order one

3304
02:42:25,229 --> 02:42:21,399
and let us know all right Thank You

3305
02:42:28,349 --> 02:42:25,239
Condrey and Adam is that Mandela effect

3306
02:42:36,139 --> 02:42:28,359
or I mean is that CERN in effect and I'm

3307
02:42:41,760 --> 02:42:39,719
Michael J Fox a little bit in Back to

3308
02:42:43,439 --> 02:42:41,770
the Future you remember when he's

3309
02:42:47,880 --> 02:42:43,449
looking at the photograph of him and his

3310
02:42:49,290 --> 02:42:47,890
mom when he was she was like fooling

3311
02:42:50,639 --> 02:42:49,300
around with him in the front seat of the

3312
02:42:54,120 --> 02:42:50,649
car and he looks at the picture and he

3313
02:42:56,550 --> 02:42:54,130
starts disappearing to bring that up

3314
02:42:59,399 --> 02:42:56,560
yeah yeah it's exactly what that sounds

3315
02:43:00,870 --> 02:42:59,409
like a couple of ways to slice key

3316
02:43:03,719 --> 02:43:00,880
Andres experience which is a really

3317
02:43:06,149 --> 02:43:03,729
great story yeah and you're right to

3318
02:43:08,450 --> 02:43:06,159
have him try to order a copy because the

3319
02:43:10,969 --> 02:43:08,460
plot will thicken based on what it gets

3320
02:43:12,929 --> 02:43:10,979
you know one way to look at it is that

3321
02:43:13,590 --> 02:43:12,939
there could be an influence from the

3322
02:43:19,769 --> 02:43:13,600
future

3323
02:43:21,779 --> 02:43:19,779
and as a result there needs to be a

3324
02:43:23,010 --> 02:43:21,789
consistent history to explain it now

3325
02:43:25,250 --> 02:43:23,020
what that is we don't know but

3326
02:43:28,290 --> 02:43:25,260
hypothetically let's say that there's

3327
02:43:32,279 --> 02:43:28,300
the keiondre learns that his parents

3328
02:43:34,319 --> 02:43:32,289
aren't really as parents right and what

3329
02:43:36,059 --> 02:43:34,329
is the consistent history that lines up

3330
02:43:37,800 --> 02:43:36,069
with that well it might be something as

3331
02:43:39,389 --> 02:43:37,810
obvious as changing the birth

3332
02:43:40,889 --> 02:43:39,399
certificate no I'm not saying house was

3333
02:43:42,960 --> 02:43:40,899
happening but that could be a way of

3334
02:43:45,510 --> 02:43:42,970
looking at it mm-hmm another way of

3335
02:43:49,529 --> 02:43:45,520
slicing this is to ask this question

3336
02:43:52,830 --> 02:43:49,539
what purpose does the anomaly serve in

3337
02:43:56,250 --> 02:43:52,840
this case does the fact that the bizarro

3338
02:44:01,109 --> 02:43:56,260
thing with the birth certificate serve a

3339
02:44:02,969 --> 02:44:01,119
purpose to keiondre you know maybe these

3340
02:44:05,550 --> 02:44:02,979
types of strange things are happening to

3341
02:44:07,050 --> 02:44:05,560
him because he himself is changing and

3342
02:44:08,399 --> 02:44:07,060
growing as a person

3343
02:44:10,939 --> 02:44:08,409
but it's really the changing and growing

3344
02:44:13,949 --> 02:44:10,949
as a person that sort of poor from being

3345
02:44:16,439 --> 02:44:13,959
that pole from his probable future in

3346
02:44:18,689 --> 02:44:16,449
some different direction that's creating

3347
02:44:23,519 --> 02:44:18,699
in his case unexplained and weird

3348
02:44:25,380 --> 02:44:23,529
phenomena so he goes down a you know he

3349
02:44:26,849 --> 02:44:25,390
deep deep dives into thinking about

3350
02:44:30,090 --> 02:44:26,859
reality and himself and everything

3351
02:44:32,159 --> 02:44:30,100
completely differently yeah and then

3352
02:44:34,590 --> 02:44:32,169
other names appear on the birth

3353
02:44:37,319 --> 02:44:34,600
certificate right so in that case

3354
02:44:38,969 --> 02:44:37,329
purpose is the cause yeah right right

3355
02:44:40,649 --> 02:44:38,979
right let's go back to the phones that's

3356
02:44:42,059 --> 02:44:40,659
it that was that's a pretty trippy

3357
02:44:44,880 --> 02:44:42,069
thought hi you're live on fade to black

3358
02:44:50,340 --> 02:44:44,890
who's calling hello

3359
02:45:00,119 --> 02:44:50,350
yeah you're live oh hi Natasha how are

3360
02:45:02,309 --> 02:45:00,129
you I'm Tennessee right on well we're

3361
02:45:05,489 --> 02:45:02,319
happy for you Natasha what have you got

3362
02:45:08,250 --> 02:45:05,499
for us tonight say hi to Adam hi Adam

3363
02:45:10,109 --> 02:45:08,260
I was calling to talk about the Mandela

3364
02:45:14,099 --> 02:45:10,119
effect - I had one when I was a kid

3365
02:45:17,969 --> 02:45:14,109
myself when I was a child we had one

3366
02:45:20,880 --> 02:45:17,979
like the one I remember when I was a kid

3367
02:45:25,619 --> 02:45:20,890
was when hello

3368
02:45:28,789 --> 02:45:25,629
yeah we're listening oh we lost you she

3369
02:45:31,889 --> 02:45:28,799
came in once she said hello and then

3370
02:45:34,529 --> 02:45:31,899
disappeared okay so with that I'll just

3371
02:45:41,519 --> 02:45:34,539
go to the next caller hi you're live on

3372
02:45:44,210 --> 02:45:41,529
fade to black who's calling okay what's

3373
02:45:47,369 --> 02:45:44,220
your name again sorry

3374
02:45:53,579 --> 02:45:47,379
the cosmic garden driving Oh

3375
02:45:55,819 --> 02:45:53,589
are you driving it that's okay that's

3376
02:45:58,710 --> 02:45:55,829
okay

3377
02:46:00,239 --> 02:45:58,720
is the Mandela affect the merging of

3378
02:46:05,639 --> 02:46:00,249
separate timelines in our creative

3379
02:46:12,869 --> 02:46:05,649
consciousness is returned to one hmm it

3380
02:46:17,939 --> 02:46:12,879
could be so that's a really interesting

3381
02:46:20,370 --> 02:46:17,949
idea however I think that you could make

3382
02:46:24,240 --> 02:46:20,380
a counter example to which I'm the

3383
02:46:27,120 --> 02:46:24,250
more sympathetic and so basically his

3384
02:46:28,560 --> 02:46:27,130
point was that you could think of each

3385
02:46:31,080 --> 02:46:28,570
individual as having their own bubble

3386
02:46:33,780 --> 02:46:31,090
reality and you could think of different

3387
02:46:36,060 --> 02:46:33,790
groups of people maybe a family as

3388
02:46:37,410 --> 02:46:36,070
having their own sort of shared reality

3389
02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:37,420
experience which is like a bubble of

3390
02:46:42,120 --> 02:46:39,520
reality and then you can expand that to

3391
02:46:45,330 --> 02:46:42,130
talk about you know a geographical area

3392
02:46:46,830 --> 02:46:45,340
a city a country a company and so you

3393
02:46:49,350 --> 02:46:46,840
have these different kind of overlapping

3394
02:46:52,679 --> 02:46:49,360
bubble realities and you can draw

3395
02:46:54,900 --> 02:46:52,689
arbitrary lines around them and as these

3396
02:46:56,820 --> 02:46:54,910
become more as we have more and more of

3397
02:46:59,340 --> 02:46:56,830
a shared experience as the world becomes

3398
02:47:02,340 --> 02:46:59,350
more flat there's a decoherence or a

3399
02:47:04,830 --> 02:47:02,350
reconciliation of of overlapping

3400
02:47:07,620 --> 02:47:04,840
realities a top of each other on top of

3401
02:47:10,860 --> 02:47:07,630
each other and that resolution of those

3402
02:47:12,469 --> 02:47:10,870
overlapping realities as an effective

3403
02:47:14,580 --> 02:47:12,479
that is what we call the Mandela effect

3404
02:47:16,530 --> 02:47:14,590
that's a really elegant way of looking

3405
02:47:18,179 --> 02:47:16,540
at it I like it I actually think that

3406
02:47:21,840 --> 02:47:18,189
half of that is true but in the other

3407
02:47:24,389 --> 02:47:21,850
direction meaning we're not we're not

3408
02:47:27,660 --> 02:47:24,399
coming more together so much as a

3409
02:47:30,240 --> 02:47:27,670
species we are in a way but the the

3410
02:47:32,780 --> 02:47:30,250
myriad overlapping consciousnesses or

3411
02:47:35,730 --> 02:47:32,790
bubble realities are actually diverging

3412
02:47:37,139 --> 02:47:35,740
and it's the most extreme example of

3413
02:47:39,090 --> 02:47:37,149
this would be the breakaway civilization

3414
02:47:41,190 --> 02:47:39,100
right that concept that there's groups

3415
02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:41,200
of humans that have gone off into space

3416
02:47:45,000 --> 02:47:43,210
they live in a bubble of reality that's

3417
02:47:46,679 --> 02:47:45,010
so much different than ours right and so

3418
02:47:49,950 --> 02:47:46,689
all kinds of crazy things can exist for

3419
02:47:52,410 --> 02:47:49,960
them right but for us you know you have

3420
02:47:54,540 --> 02:47:52,420
to divide it different ways we're not

3421
02:47:56,820 --> 02:47:54,550
really the normal types so you know we

3422
02:47:59,160 --> 02:47:56,830
can how we can see weird things in the

3423
02:48:00,719 --> 02:47:59,170
sky and do retro causal consciousness

3424
02:48:02,820 --> 02:48:00,729
experiments and all those kinds of stuff

3425
02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:02,830
and I actually see that trend continuing

3426
02:48:08,820 --> 02:48:05,439
that meaning that a planet is maybe

3427
02:48:10,590 --> 02:48:08,830
something like a a launch pad or a

3428
02:48:14,910 --> 02:48:10,600
jumping-off point four different level

3429
02:48:17,040 --> 02:48:14,920
realities at different stages however

3430
02:48:19,500 --> 02:48:17,050
the fact that there are and there does

3431
02:48:23,040 --> 02:48:19,510
need to be an overlap of individual and

3432
02:48:24,480 --> 02:48:23,050
collective realities is I think a really

3433
02:48:27,389 --> 02:48:24,490
important point to understand when it

3434
02:48:28,500 --> 02:48:27,399
comes to sort of how one person's

3435
02:48:30,910 --> 02:48:28,510
experience can be different from another

3436
02:48:33,280 --> 02:48:30,920
but they're they're kind of

3437
02:48:35,650 --> 02:48:33,290
they both have true qualities to them

3438
02:48:37,450 --> 02:48:35,660
let's put it that way and what's

3439
02:48:40,001 --> 02:48:37,460
interesting with that and and thank you

3440
02:48:44,320 --> 02:48:40,011
for the phone call what's interesting

3441
02:48:47,200 --> 02:48:44,330
with that is when Dean Radin talks about

3442
02:48:52,301 --> 02:48:47,210
this and he says it's not you know that

3443
02:48:55,091 --> 02:48:52,311
that people want these huge shifts these

3444
02:48:59,560 --> 02:48:55,101
huge results these huge obvious things

3445
02:49:02,320 --> 02:48:59,570
and and Dean says even if it's at the

3446
02:49:05,560 --> 02:49:02,330
atomic level that these changes right

3447
02:49:08,501 --> 02:49:05,570
that they're very very small that's just

3448
02:49:10,600 --> 02:49:08,511
as big of a deal as if something

3449
02:49:13,301 --> 02:49:10,610
materializes right in front of you or

3450
02:49:14,940 --> 02:49:13,311
it's you know something catches on fire

3451
02:49:18,430 --> 02:49:14,950
from the mind all right

3452
02:49:20,620 --> 02:49:18,440
okay that's sensational but if we're

3453
02:49:24,131 --> 02:49:20,630
getting this at the atomic level that is

3454
02:49:29,261 --> 02:49:24,141
just as big of a result and I think

3455
02:49:32,980 --> 02:49:29,271
Dean's right yeah I agree

3456
02:49:34,780 --> 02:49:32,990
the this scale is if something is still

3457
02:49:36,120 --> 02:49:34,790
impossible but at a small scale it's

3458
02:49:38,591 --> 02:49:36,130
still impossible that's right that's

3459
02:49:40,150 --> 02:49:38,601
that is exactly right let's go back to

3460
02:49:42,581 --> 02:49:40,160
the phones oh I'm sorry go ahead

3461
02:49:45,190 --> 02:49:42,591
oh and increasing we're finding that

3462
02:49:48,730 --> 02:49:45,200
quantum effects which we've permitted to

3463
02:49:50,950 --> 02:49:48,740
exist because our our biological or

3464
02:49:52,331 --> 02:49:50,960
macroscopic world isn't that weird well

3465
02:49:54,791 --> 02:49:52,341
we're finding though is that quantum

3466
02:49:58,961 --> 02:49:54,801
effects are being seen at larger larger

3467
02:50:03,761 --> 02:49:58,971
scales including at that cellular scales

3468
02:50:06,091 --> 02:50:03,771
and so we through various means that

3469
02:50:08,410 --> 02:50:06,101
we're uncovering we might actually be

3470
02:50:09,520 --> 02:50:08,420
much more prone to being affected by

3471
02:50:12,910 --> 02:50:09,530
small scale things than we previously

3472
02:50:15,820 --> 02:50:12,920
thought well yeah I mean in reality

3473
02:50:20,190 --> 02:50:15,830
micro macro or the exact same things if

3474
02:50:23,560 --> 02:50:20,200
it's this sensational we all affected a

3475
02:50:27,091 --> 02:50:23,570
vial of water in the past our bodies are

3476
02:50:29,140 --> 02:50:27,101
mostly water so what does that say about

3477
02:50:31,060 --> 02:50:29,150
perhaps like the way that we think about

3478
02:50:33,280 --> 02:50:31,070
ourselves and it's it's it's real

3479
02:50:36,791 --> 02:50:33,290
biological impact on our bodies yeah I

3480
02:50:40,200 --> 02:50:36,801
totally I there is something to that you

3481
02:50:43,840 --> 02:50:40,210
know when you think about how much

3482
02:50:46,090 --> 02:50:43,850
how much water is in us and if we are

3483
02:50:49,330 --> 02:50:46,100
affecting water like that at a grand

3484
02:50:50,920 --> 02:50:49,340
scale by the way then you are physically

3485
02:50:52,240 --> 02:50:50,930
changing most of your body right away

3486
02:50:54,760 --> 02:50:52,250
it's come out of the phones how you live

3487
02:50:56,969 --> 02:50:54,770
I'm fade to black who's calling hey

3488
02:51:01,769 --> 02:50:56,979
Jimmy it's Nick hey Nick how are you

3489
02:51:04,540 --> 02:51:01,779
good he didn't what's on your mind I

3490
02:51:08,800 --> 02:51:04,550
once got a text message from the future

3491
02:51:10,779 --> 02:51:08,810
you did what did say good it didn't say

3492
02:51:13,300 --> 02:51:10,789
anything but it was this is several

3493
02:51:16,779 --> 02:51:13,310
years ago before smartphones was stolen

3494
02:51:20,529 --> 02:51:16,789
flipped on but on the screen I would say

3495
02:51:24,130 --> 02:51:20,539
you know trying to stay out of winning

3496
02:51:28,389 --> 02:51:24,140
the message was sent and it was a few

3497
02:51:30,370 --> 02:51:28,399
years into the future the phone number

3498
02:51:33,840 --> 02:51:30,380
that came from one of the digits was a

3499
02:51:36,219 --> 02:51:33,850
question mark oh really

3500
02:51:38,830 --> 02:51:36,229
yeah it was really weird and this I

3501
02:51:41,439 --> 02:51:38,840
can't remember when exactly this

3502
02:51:44,859 --> 02:51:41,449
happened I want to say 2011 because I

3503
02:51:48,370 --> 02:51:44,869
know it was before 2012 because everyone

3504
02:51:51,429 --> 02:51:48,380
was like freaking out over December 21st

3505
02:51:54,519 --> 02:51:51,439
2012 thing and I noticed that this

3506
02:51:57,130 --> 02:51:54,529
message was at least from beef on the

3507
02:51:59,979 --> 02:51:57,140
bat point okay as well we still have

3508
02:52:05,019 --> 02:51:59,989
something then [\h__\h] stop worrying

3509
02:52:07,330 --> 02:52:05,029
about 2012 and obviously I'm you know

3510
02:52:09,849 --> 02:52:07,340
what I'm gonna ask did you save the text

3511
02:52:12,639 --> 02:52:09,859
message did you email it to yourself did

3512
02:52:16,540 --> 02:52:12,649
you do something with it no I did my

3513
02:52:18,519 --> 02:52:16,550
friends of course I didn't I don't know

3514
02:52:24,250 --> 02:52:18,529
if I could had a way of saving the

3515
02:52:26,830 --> 02:52:24,260
message on yeah yeah yeah he couldn't

3516
02:52:29,080 --> 02:52:26,840
take a screenshot in 2011 that's pretty

3517
02:52:31,260 --> 02:52:29,090
interesting a text message from the

3518
02:52:33,670 --> 02:52:31,270
future without a without a message in it

3519
02:52:35,349 --> 02:52:33,680
the one thing I wish I had saved there

3520
02:52:37,689 --> 02:52:35,359
was the phone number even though one of

3521
02:52:40,479 --> 02:52:37,699
the digits was a question mark i cuz you

3522
02:52:43,540 --> 02:52:40,489
know yeah 10 chances only 10 chances

3523
02:52:45,040 --> 02:52:43,550
right actually and like hey is there any

3524
02:52:50,340 --> 02:52:45,050
chance that you would know me in the

3525
02:52:52,990 --> 02:52:50,350
future it's just awesome I know right

3526
02:52:54,310 --> 02:52:53,000
well Nick the next time it happens you

3527
02:52:57,341 --> 02:52:54,320
know what to do

3528
02:53:00,560 --> 02:52:57,351
absolutely thank you so much

3529
02:53:01,490 --> 02:53:00,570
Thank You Nick and isn't that

3530
02:53:05,421 --> 02:53:01,500
fascinating

3531
02:53:08,211 --> 02:53:05,431
right there a text from the future you

3532
02:53:11,570 --> 02:53:08,221
know what I did get Adam I posted this

3533
02:53:17,390 --> 02:53:11,580
on on Facebook last month I got an email

3534
02:53:19,881 --> 02:53:17,400
from PayPal in the future yeah it was

3535
02:53:23,841 --> 02:53:19,891
funny it was like you know it was it was

3536
02:53:25,610 --> 02:53:23,851
it was as you know a spam email trying

3537
02:53:32,870 --> 02:53:25,620
to get me to click on the link right but

3538
02:53:34,761 --> 02:53:32,880
it had the wrong date on it and I posted

3539
02:53:36,501 --> 02:53:34,771
on Facebook I got it I got an email from

3540
02:53:39,860 --> 02:53:36,511
the future check it out I think it was

3541
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:39,870
uh I think it was like a week off I

3542
02:53:43,400 --> 02:53:42,000
can't remember what it was but it was

3543
02:53:46,341 --> 02:53:43,410
you know and as you looked at it a

3544
02:53:49,131 --> 02:53:46,351
little bit closer it looked as legit as

3545
02:53:51,470 --> 02:53:49,141
it could be but they misspelled

3546
02:53:54,501 --> 02:53:51,480
something and they got the date wrong

3547
02:53:55,910 --> 02:53:54,511
and it was just so funny an email from

3548
02:54:01,001 --> 02:53:55,920
the future it's go back to the phones hi

3549
02:54:11,600 --> 02:54:04,190
I'm doing good Tom from Dayton Ohio say

3550
02:54:13,850 --> 02:54:11,610
hi to Adam great Tom nice to meet you

3551
02:54:17,150 --> 02:54:13,860
Tom we got two minutes we got two

3552
02:54:19,610 --> 02:54:17,160
minutes sure a real quick story and then

3553
02:54:25,131 --> 02:54:19,620
hopefully I didn't get some comments and

3554
02:54:27,501 --> 02:54:25,141
so I was on the Mandela effect I had

3555
02:54:29,631 --> 02:54:27,511
been all my life suffering from a

3556
02:54:32,390 --> 02:54:29,641
problem with sleep like where I'd hear

3557
02:54:34,700 --> 02:54:32,400
loud noises and I was trying to figure

3558
02:54:37,850 --> 02:54:34,710
out what what started this I wasn't in

3559
02:54:40,070 --> 02:54:37,860
the war or anything like that and and I

3560
02:54:43,400 --> 02:54:40,080
remember back in my childhood my parents

3561
02:54:45,591 --> 02:54:43,410
used to get in fight and they would slam

3562
02:54:49,220 --> 02:54:45,601
things well my brother and I were trying

3563
02:54:52,040 --> 02:54:49,230
to sleep and I also had this one real

3564
02:54:54,890 --> 02:54:52,050
old house that we used to live in after

3565
02:54:57,350 --> 02:54:54,900
watching The Wizard of Oz one night I

3566
02:54:59,330 --> 02:54:57,360
kept having these bad dreams about this

3567
02:55:01,940 --> 02:54:59,340
Wicked Witch that used to stalk the

3568
02:55:04,160 --> 02:55:01,950
stairways up to our room and so I'd

3569
02:55:07,670 --> 02:55:04,170
always dream about her so I had this

3570
02:55:12,260 --> 02:55:07,680
idea why don't I go back in time

3571
02:55:14,000 --> 02:55:12,270
and visit my younger self and like I

3572
02:55:17,000 --> 02:55:14,010
don't know why I thought of this but I

3573
02:55:19,040 --> 02:55:17,010
said on that hallway where that Wicked

3574
02:55:21,139 --> 02:55:19,050
Witch was I would install these blue

3575
02:55:24,380 --> 02:55:21,149
lights and then I told my younger self

3576
02:55:26,719 --> 02:55:24,390
that if ever you see those blue lights

3577
02:55:29,929 --> 02:55:26,729
on there's nothing to be afraid of

3578
02:55:34,519 --> 02:55:29,939
nothing can get you and then and for the

3579
02:55:37,070 --> 02:55:34,529
loud noises I gave myself look my

3580
02:55:39,380 --> 02:55:37,080
younger self a set of headphones and

3581
02:55:42,170 --> 02:55:39,390
said if you see the blue light on on

3582
02:55:45,320 --> 02:55:42,180
these headphones those noises will no

3583
02:55:49,300 --> 02:55:45,330
longer bother you ever since I did that

3584
02:55:51,679 --> 02:55:49,310
I got a head net I've slept wonderfully

3585
02:55:53,809 --> 02:55:51,689
and this has been like a couple years

3586
02:55:56,000 --> 02:55:53,819
now so I just thought I would share that

3587
02:55:58,570 --> 02:55:56,010
story with you since we're on this kind

3588
02:56:02,420 --> 02:55:58,580
of going back in time type of thing and

3589
02:56:05,510 --> 02:56:02,430
given here so made wise yeah yeah yeah

3590
02:56:08,090 --> 02:56:05,520
and why not I mean if if everything else

3591
02:56:10,370 --> 02:56:08,100
works why wouldn't that work and of

3592
02:56:13,189 --> 02:56:10,380
course this was you know over a year ago

3593
02:56:14,090 --> 02:56:13,199
when I did this but you know what do you

3594
02:56:17,179 --> 02:56:14,100
guys think about that

3595
02:56:18,679 --> 02:56:17,189
well you slept like a baby sense Tom but

3596
02:56:20,660 --> 02:56:18,689
I'm gonna hand this over to Adam Adam

3597
02:56:23,179 --> 02:56:20,670
did he affect the past

3598
02:56:27,410 --> 02:56:23,189
well you very well may have you know you

3599
02:56:29,479 --> 02:56:27,420
could you never really disentangle retro

3600
02:56:32,150 --> 02:56:29,489
causality or effect in the past with

3601
02:56:33,710 --> 02:56:32,160
with the precognition or responding to

3602
02:56:34,939 --> 02:56:33,720
something that's an information from the

3603
02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:34,949
future in some ways they're both

3604
02:56:40,130 --> 02:56:37,439
happening at once just different ways of

3605
02:56:41,840 --> 02:56:40,140
talking about the same event but I think

3606
02:56:45,019 --> 02:56:41,850
that you know maybe for the audience

3607
02:56:48,110 --> 02:56:45,029
start playing with this idea of visiting

3608
02:56:50,389 --> 02:56:48,120
yourself in the past and giving yourself

3609
02:56:52,610 --> 02:56:50,399
messages and maybe even go a little

3610
02:56:55,639 --> 02:56:52,620
further and start visiting things

3611
02:56:58,519 --> 02:56:55,649
mentally in the past and trying to find

3612
02:57:01,429 --> 02:56:58,529
evidence for it in the future it sounds

3613
02:57:03,740 --> 02:57:01,439
a little crazy but sometimes the results

3614
02:57:05,059 --> 02:57:03,750
are very interesting what you're doing

3615
02:57:07,519 --> 02:57:05,069
is you're affecting the consistent

3616
02:57:10,219 --> 02:57:07,529
history to create a new consistent

3617
02:57:12,439 --> 02:57:10,229
history that's more congruent with you

3618
02:57:14,330 --> 02:57:12,449
know the present reality and you know

3619
02:57:18,439 --> 02:57:14,340
one of the things that's a common

3620
02:57:20,820 --> 02:57:18,449
element among these experiences like

3621
02:57:23,430 --> 02:57:20,830
tongs is that there's

3622
02:57:24,540 --> 02:57:23,440
meaningful miss involved and you know

3623
02:57:25,470 --> 02:57:24,550
when you're trying to solve a crime you

3624
02:57:27,810 --> 02:57:25,480
say follow the money

3625
02:57:32,220 --> 02:57:27,820
mmm well if you're trying to figure out

3626
02:57:34,440 --> 02:57:32,230
the the real the primary it's called the

3627
02:57:36,360 --> 02:57:34,450
primary cause of certain of these

3628
02:57:38,220 --> 02:57:36,370
unexplained things or unusual things

3629
02:57:40,730 --> 02:57:38,230
following the meaningfulness because the

3630
02:57:43,560 --> 02:57:40,740
meaningfulness is blossom point to and

3631
02:57:45,511 --> 02:57:43,570
will often in fact be the thing that

3632
02:57:50,220 --> 02:57:45,521
kind of closes the loop on this cause

3633
02:57:52,640 --> 02:57:50,230
effect stuff so maybe Tom maybe it was

3634
02:57:57,030 --> 02:57:52,650
deeply meaningful for him to have that

3635
02:58:00,900 --> 02:57:57,040
conversation with himself and and

3636
02:58:03,210 --> 02:58:00,910
thereby get better sleep yeah absolutely

3637
02:58:06,450 --> 02:58:03,220
Adam Tom thank you for the phone call

3638
02:58:08,820 --> 02:58:06,460
Adam will see you at contact in the

3639
02:58:11,220 --> 02:58:08,830
desert coming up at the end of May I

3640
02:58:13,261 --> 02:58:11,230
really look forward to hanging out with

3641
02:58:16,740 --> 02:58:13,271
you once again and as soon as we get

3642
02:58:18,480 --> 02:58:16,750
this app launched which I know you're

3643
02:58:21,660 --> 02:58:18,490
gonna tell me it'll be next month but as

3644
02:58:23,250 --> 02:58:21,670
soon as you get the app launched we'll

3645
02:58:26,160 --> 02:58:23,260
get you back on the show is it going to

3646
02:58:27,480 --> 02:58:26,170
be ready by contact it will not well

3647
02:58:30,720 --> 02:58:27,490
there you go there's your answer

3648
02:58:34,770 --> 02:58:30,730
everybody now you can go and check out

3649
02:58:37,530 --> 02:58:34,780
Adam at entangled dot org the links are

3650
02:58:39,900 --> 02:58:37,540
at Jimmy Church radio calm very simple

3651
02:58:43,230 --> 02:58:39,910
and of course follow Adam on Twitter at

3652
02:58:45,150 --> 02:58:43,240
Adams lab Adam thank you so much it was

3653
02:58:47,670 --> 02:58:45,160
worth the 5-year wait my man thank you

3654
02:58:51,000 --> 02:58:47,680
so much my pleasure talk to you next

3655
02:58:53,280 --> 02:58:51,010
time Adam curry again it is entangled

3656
02:58:54,150 --> 02:58:53,290
org the links are over at Jimmy Church

3657
02:58:56,250 --> 02:58:54,160
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3658
02:58:57,480 --> 02:58:56,260
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3659
02:59:00,990 --> 02:58:57,490
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3660
02:59:03,470 --> 02:59:01,000
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3661
02:59:06,301 --> 02:59:03,480
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3662
02:59:08,190 --> 02:59:06,311
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3670
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3672
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3673
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3674
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3675
02:59:37,950 --> 02:59:35,439
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3676
02:59:40,469 --> 02:59:37,960
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3677
02:59:43,260 --> 02:59:40,479
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3678
02:59:44,760 --> 02:59:43,270
meals Jimmy Church tomorrow night right

3679
02:59:48,510 --> 02:59:44,770
here right here

3680
02:59:52,340 --> 02:59:48,520
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3681
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